Probably for Xbox community being cross gen is the best choice due to how Microsoft treat generational games as cross gen and console gen as an upgrade rather than a new generation . late adopters will be much more on Xbox side because most of gamers already has Xbox One X or they think it's not worth to even upgrade. Also Xbox are very weak on games in 8th gen less games are produce and lee quality games were produce on Xbox One. I can see they are willing to enjoy 8th gen games longer than PS4.

Sony fans a little bit different they hungry for new Ip and new innovation, they already has enough 8th gen games and ready for next gen. :)

No no, come back to Earth. I am talking results, by stating MS doesn't only lost this gen, but all of them. Straight facts.

And I repeat there are no Xbox console on the Top 6 and soon Top 7 of best selling console of all time. I have to repeat it because it seems you didn't get it the first time. 

Sony and Nintendo got the success, and know that they sell a lot consoles, so they do what the winner do : exclusive games that sells consoles. That's business.

Quite the opposite for MS... MS is doing what losers do : share their games with everybody and that's business too. They don't do that because they are kind, oh no, not at all. They do that because that's the best thing to do when you are the loser and don't sell any console. They understood that they will never win a console generation so the best thing to do is sell more games everywhere. 

So stop your "MS are so kind" non sense. But yes that's cool that people don't have to buy an Xbox to play Xbox games today. I can play it on my PC, the only problem is I don't like Halo/Gears and Forza.

That’s a bit funny considering Xbox has Bleeding Edge, Grounded, Everwild, and Project Mara announced for new and innovative Ips and Sony just revealed the same font style for PS5. Maybe wait till Sony is less quiet before you can make these arguments going forward ;)

where as 360 beat Sony the entire gen and only cause of Japan did PS3 creep up to 2nd in the final months.

And that was the best performance MS ever did in the entire console industry. That's something to be proud of ? Finishing third place ? Specially when we know that 360 players bought several consoles because of the RROD ?

There was no RROD this generation, no PlayStation out one year late and look at how things go for Xbox. So yes I said it again, MS was never successful on the console industry. You probably live in America, but the thing is WorldWide is the key and they never was successful. And unfortunatly again for you Japan is part of the World.

How can you say that MS was successful in the console industry when they have no single one console on the best selling console list ? You are talking to me about N64, Wii U, Game Cube... But at the end of the day, Nintendo knows what it's like to have consoles on the best selling list. So yes, again, Nintendo, just like Sony, totally slap MS in the console industry.

Worlwide numbers don't lie. You live in your bubble in America, me I see the big picture. I don't care about one market. Where I live PS4 is outselling Xbox by 4:1 ratio minimum, but I know it's juste one market so I don't really care.

Nice job ignoring the actual point I made in the middle. Where winning breeds laziness and losing breeds better change. I’ve been enjoying Xbox in the last couple years just like I was at 360s peak from 2007-2010.

Because I don't know what it means ! English isn't my first language... 

But damn if you were sleeping like a baby back then, I guess you cried a lot when you see PS3 above 360 at the end. LoL

And of course you don't care about consoles sales anymore, if you're a Xbox fan, you better not care about consoles sales. 

Sorry I had to put a gif here.

Please explain how crossgen will help push the early adopters to go to Xbox if they want the new and best version, while Sony will have the game they really need to buy a new console to play and will also allow then to carry over their games from PS4? To me it seems like they will both be better at keeping their current userbase plus luring Xbox gamers.

One could say Sony is more pro their consumer by investing more on the platform they chose.

No no, come back to Earth. I am talking results, by stating MS doesn't only lost this gen, but all of them. Straight facts.

And I repeat there are no Xbox console on the Top 6 and soon Top 7 of best selling console of all time. I have to repeat it because it seems you didn't get it the first time. 

Sony and Nintendo got the success, and know that they sell a lot consoles, so they do what the winner do : exclusive games that sells consoles. That's business.

Quite the opposite for MS... MS is doing what losers do : share their games with everybody and that's business too. They don't do that because they are kind, oh no, not at all. They do that because that's the best thing to do when you are the loser and don't sell any console. They understood that they will never win a console generation so the best thing to do is sell more games everywhere. 

So stop your "MS are so kind" non sense. But yes that's cool that people don't have to buy an Xbox to play Xbox games today. I can play it on my PC, the only problem is I don't like Halo/Gears and Forza.

Even Knack is much better than all those title you have mentioned

Because I don't know what it means ! English isn't my first language... 

But damn if you were sleeping like a baby back then, I guess you cried a lot when you see PS3 above 360 at the end. LoL

And of course you don't care about consoles sales anymore, if you're a Xbox fan, you better not care about consoles sales. 

Sorry I had to put a gif here.

sales2099 said:

Lol indeed. Yes we had to adapt. Now it’s about player counts and overall sales within the Xbox ecosystem.