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twintail on 05 February 2020
sales2099 said:
Sorry but no, it is not going to be a “smooth” transition. Xbox is doing a smooth transition with cross gen launch games. Sony is basically saying “you want the newest games, buy the PS5”.

I guess PS1 to PS2, and PS3 to PS4, and WiiU to Switch were just 'rough' launch and transition periods.

The_Liquid_Laser said:
Heh, sounds like Sony and Microsoft are in a giant game of chicken. First one to swerve has to set the price.

I mean, if you want to believe baseless assumptions on a vague comment sure.



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HollyGamer on 05 February 2020
sales2099 said:
HollyGamer said:

Cross gen will not make a smooth transition instead " super extreme  hard transition ". Gamer will not smoothly change to new platform instead waiting for a reason to change and to upgrade, gamer 100 % will obviously (no rocket science) will stay on current platform if a lot of launch games are cross gen. Gamer logically will think that is unnecessary to upgrade if games can be achievable or available on current gen. 

In the other way smooth transition can be achievable by product price that is relatively affordable, backward compatibility, accessibility, a reason  for upgrade (value , uniqueness ) , market readiness, macro economic situation on global scale, product availability on the place. 

There will always be late and early adopters. Many want something new and or the best version. Others don’t have the budget or even desire to get a shiny new console when they just got a Xbox x. 

You mentioned “gamers logically”....just as many gamers are the opposite of that lol. I am NOT a early adopter for my entire life, but I know MS gonna push Halo Infinite marketing hard. I’m almost certain their will be a limited edition console. MS has me by the balls and I’m day 1 buying...but also I have the money to not have the “poor mans” version. I have the means to play the best, that’s what I’ll do 

Probably for Xbox community being cross gen is the best choice due to how Microsoft treat generational games as cross gen and console gen as an upgrade rather than a new generation . late adopters will be much more on Xbox side because most of gamers already has Xbox One X or they think it's not worth to even upgrade. Also Xbox are very weak on games in 8th gen less games are produce and lee quality games were produce on Xbox One. I can see they are willing to enjoy 8th gen games longer than PS4.

Sony fans a little bit different they hungry for new Ip and new innovation, they already has enough 8th gen games and ready for next gen. :)



Keiji on 05 February 2020
sales2099 said:
Sorry but no, it is not going to be a “smooth” transition. Xbox is doing a smooth transition with cross gen launch games. Sony is basically saying “you want the newest games, buy the PS5”.

I know that's crazy... Sony is making games for PS5 for the next generation.

It's not because MS has no exclusive and no choice to put their game everywhere because they never win any generation that you need to be mad.



sales2099 on 05 February 2020
Keiji said:
sales2099 said:
Sorry but no, it is not going to be a “smooth” transition. Xbox is doing a smooth transition with cross gen launch games. Sony is basically saying “you want the newest games, buy the PS5”.

I know that's crazy... Sony is making games for PS5 for the next generation.

It's not because MS has no exclusive and no choice to put their game everywhere because they never win any generation that you need to be mad.

No exclusives? Last I checked none of their games are going to be on PS, that’s exclusive enough for me :)

Hey in the end MS is more pro consumer with how they do things. Launch games for every gen never get the same out of a console as a 5th year exclusive anyway. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 05 February 2020
HollyGamer said:
sales2099 said:

There will always be late and early adopters. Many want something new and or the best version. Others don’t have the budget or even desire to get a shiny new console when they just got a Xbox x. 

You mentioned “gamers logically”....just as many gamers are the opposite of that lol. I am NOT a early adopter for my entire life, but I know MS gonna push Halo Infinite marketing hard. I’m almost certain their will be a limited edition console. MS has me by the balls and I’m day 1 buying...but also I have the money to not have the “poor mans” version. I have the means to play the best, that’s what I’ll do 

Probably for Xbox community being cross gen is the best choice due to how Microsoft treat generational games as cross gen and console gen as an upgrade rather than a new generation . late adopters will be much more on Xbox side because most of gamers already has Xbox One X or they think it's not worth to even upgrade. Also Xbox are very weak on games in 8th gen less games are produce and lee quality games were produce on Xbox One. I can see they are willing to enjoy 8th gen games longer than PS4.

Sony fans a little bit different they hungry for new Ip and new innovation, they already has enough 8th gen games and ready for next gen. :)

That’s a bit funny considering Xbox has Bleeding Edge, Grounded, Everwild, and Project Mara announced for new and innovative Ips and Sony just revealed the same font style for PS5. Maybe wait till Sony is less quiet before you can make these arguments going forward ;)



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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JRPGfan on 05 February 2020
sales2099 said:
Keiji said:

I know that's crazy... Sony is making games for PS5 for the next generation.

It's not because MS has no exclusive and no choice to put their game everywhere because they never win any generation that you need to be mad.

No exclusives? Last I checked none of their games are going to be on PS, that’s exclusive enough for me :)

Hey in the end MS is more pro consumer with how they do things. Launch games for every gen never get the same out of a console as a 5th year exclusive anyway. 

Minecraft, We Happy Few, Physchonauts 2, Wasteland 3, The outer Worlds, Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice, Pillar's of Eternity 2 - Deadfire,... ect.

^ some of these are up comeing games, not yet released, that are heading for Playstation 4/5.
Its too early to say "none of their games", when currently it doesnt look that way.

Hell they put Ori & the blind forrest, on the Switch (where it looks and runs better).
Thats probably the best success story of a new IP xbox had all gen (in terms of quality) and its gone to another platform.



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Keiji on 05 February 2020
sales2099 said:
Keiji said:

I know that's crazy... Sony is making games for PS5 for the next generation.

It's not because MS has no exclusive and no choice to put their game everywhere because they never win any generation that you need to be mad.

No exclusives? Last I checked none of their games are going to be on PS, that’s exclusive enough for me :)

Hey in the end MS is more pro consumer with how they do things. Launch games for every gen never get the same out of a console as a 5th year exclusive anyway. 

Pro consumer... ha ha. The only reason MS is launching their games everywhere is that they have NO CHOICE. Nobody buy their console. 

Damn you really are a blind pro MS. Thinking a billionaire company is pro consumer. I love my PlayStations but you will never hear me talking non sense like pro consumer about these companies.



JRPGfan on 05 February 2020
Keiji said:
sales2099 said:

No exclusives? Last I checked none of their games are going to be on PS, that’s exclusive enough for me :)

Hey in the end MS is more pro consumer with how they do things. Launch games for every gen never get the same out of a console as a 5th year exclusive anyway. 

Pro consumer... ha ha. The only reason MS is launching their games everywhere is that they have NO CHOICE. Nobody buy their console. 

Americans like them somewhat (or just dislike japanese brands)....
Also if littarly no-one bought them, how did they sell 46m of them? Some buy them, dispite everything.



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Keiji on 05 February 2020
JRPGfan said:
Keiji said:

Pro consumer... ha ha. The only reason MS is launching their games everywhere is that they have NO CHOICE. Nobody buy their console. 

Americans like them somewhat (or just dislike japanese brands)....
Also if littarly no-one bought them, how did they sell 46m of them? Some buy them, dispite everything.

That's really a terrible number. I remember them being cocky in 2013 thinking they will sell 200M. Big slap in their face and back to reality where the World isn't like USA at all. Where there are no Xbox console on the Top 6 and soon Top 7 of best selling console of all time.

Never do a joke again like "but they are pro consumer" about these companies. Have some dignity. Please guys.

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sales2099 on 05 February 2020
Keiji said:
sales2099 said:

No exclusives? Last I checked none of their games are going to be on PS, that’s exclusive enough for me :)

Hey in the end MS is more pro consumer with how they do things. Launch games for every gen never get the same out of a console as a 5th year exclusive anyway. 

Pro consumer... ha ha. The only reason MS is launching their games everywhere is that they have NO CHOICE. Nobody buy their console. 

Damn you really are a blind pro MS. Thinking a billionaire company is pro consumer. I love my PlayStations but you will never hear me talking non sense like pro consumer about these companies.

If making your games cross gen and making PC versions of their exclusives isn’t more pro consumer where as Sony locks theirs to one platform, then we have little to talk about. Not to mention the studios MS bought that are making multiplat games, MS is honouring the contracts and will shift to exclusive developing after the current games release. Then you have Minecraft which I guarantee Sony wouldn’t be as liberal with its availability. 

So yes, I do believe I have evidence to say Ms is more progressive then Sony. You can cite how they lost the gen but who cares...you making excuses and I’m talking results 



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