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JRPGfan said:
Pemalite said:



Yes. Lets inject disinfectant.  Moron.

I had to watch it to see if he actually said that..... I couldn't believe it.... I still cant.

How can the president of the US, say such things live on tv? in a press talk?


On a side note, how the hell do you plan on getting strong Ultra violet lights, inside a persons lunges?
Their laying there in a ventilator, and now its time to get a light bulb up that lunge, so we can clear away that nasty virus!
(it could be possible... I just dont see how on a mass scale, as a form of treatment this works out)

Honestly? Surprised no one has jumped in to say he "didn't say that" and "it's been taken out of context" like what happens normally.

Light can penetrate tissue if it's strong enough though... But we should remember that UV light has a cancerous effect on the body.
https://www.who.int/uv/faq/whatisuv/en/index2.html

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Only 4 new cases of the Coronavirus in the last week for my whole state... It will be interesting to see how the rates change as we enter winter/cooler months.



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Pemalite said:

Honestly? Surprised no one has jumped in to say he "didn't say that" and "it's been taken out of context" like what happens normally.

Light can penetrate tissue if it's strong enough though... But we should remember that UV light has a cancerous effect on the body.
https://www.who.int/uv/faq/whatisuv/en/index2.html

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Only 4 new cases of the Coronavirus in the last week for my whole state... It will be interesting to see how the rates change as we enter winter/cooler months.

from what I heard the offiicial statement is that he was sarcastic ..

imagine that, the president speaking sarcastically/joking in front of millions of viewers that hope for answers and direction, when 50k his citizens have already died of the disease..

in my opinion that's an even worse look than him just being dumb



Lafiel said:
Pemalite said:

Honestly? Surprised no one has jumped in to say he "didn't say that" and "it's been taken out of context" like what happens normally.

Light can penetrate tissue if it's strong enough though... But we should remember that UV light has a cancerous effect on the body.
https://www.who.int/uv/faq/whatisuv/en/index2.html

***************

Only 4 new cases of the Coronavirus in the last week for my whole state... It will be interesting to see how the rates change as we enter winter/cooler months.

from what I heard the offiicial statement is that he was sarcastic ..

imagine that, the president speaking sarcastically/joking in front of millions of viewers that hope for answers and direction, when 50k his citizens have already died of the disease..

in my opinion that's an even worse look than him just being dumb

Nah, that wasn't sarcasm, he believed he was asking valid question. The man is so transparent, I can't believe we can see him at all and he obviously didn't understand injecting dettol is dangerous. He has proven himself to be shit leader when it cones to this crisis. 



 

China Numba wan!!

Luxembourg just released it's newest numbers on Covid-19, and they're pretty great. 3007 patients have recovered already out of 3695, which means we're already on the way to beat the virus.

Sadly, again 2 persons died, bringing the tally to 85. That's about 2% of the normal deaths in a year in Luxembourg.

Additionally to the updated numbers, Luxembourg now came with entire sets of graphs and statistics. So, here you go, all the stats from Luxembourg in one go:

https://gouvernement.lu/en/dossiers.gouv_msan%2Ben%2Bdossiers%2B2020%2Bcorona-virus.html

Numbers of infected vs recoveries

Deaths by age group. For the record, the average age is 83, the median age is 85.

Number of tests in total and number of positive tests, also in total up to each date.

Hospitalisations, first graph shows how many are in normal and how many in intensive care each day, while the second graph shows the number of new admissions versus the release of patients each day.

Finally, the current situation. Black is the number of total deaths, Red the number of ICU beds in use, Dark blue is the number of positive tests each day, while the light blue curve is the same, but with a 7 day moving average.

So yeah, hope you found that as interesting as I did.



Edit: Sorry, Doublepost, dunno how that happend

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John2290 said:
SvennoJ said:

Wouldn't UV light burn your lung tissue as much as kill the virus. You don't have a thick layer of skin for nothing...

Far UVC light could help in stores
https://www.genengnews.com/topics/translational-medicine/uv-light-that-is-safe-for-humans-but-bad-for-bacteria-and-viruses/

“Unfortunately, conventional germicidal UV light is also a human health hazard and can lead to skin cancer and cataracts, which prevents its use in public spaces,”

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In this study, aerosolized H1N1 virus—a common strain of flu virus—was released into a test chamber and exposed to very low doses of 222-nm far-UVC light. A control group of aerosolized virus was not exposed to the UVC light. The far-UVC light efficiently inactivated the flu viruses, with about the same efficiency as conventional germicidal UV light.

At a price of less than $1000 per lamp—a cost that would surely decrease if the lamps were mass produced—far-UVC lights are relatively inexpensive. This could allow the tool to be utilized in far more places than UV lights are currently being employed, leading to potentially wide sweeping impacts toward diminishing the spread of many infectious diseases.

I wouldn't stick it down my throat though:

“Far-UVC light has a very limited range and cannot penetrate through the outer dead-cell layer of human skin or the tear layer in the eye, so it’s not a human health hazard,” Dr. Brenner noted. “But because viruses and bacteria are much smaller than human cells, far-UVC light can reach their DNA and kill them.”

Maybe but we poision people to cure cancer so... eh, I'm not advocating it, I just thought it was interesting when the media ripped him for it but it turned out to be a legitimate treatment for the lungs a half centruy ago. It certainly blew my mind a little. 

Perhaps when you need to be put on an ecmo machine you might as well try this

Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122858/

That was replaced by antibiotics, yet those don't work against a virus, add a UVC light to an Ecmo machine and clean the blood while oxygenating it. I don't know if that would be effective or safe (might just kill your anti bodies as fast as the virus)


Here's a study on the effect of UVC on the lungs from a year ago.
https://www.jhltonline.org/article/S1053-2498(19)30118-4/abstract

This is the first clinical trial evaluating a therapeutic intervention during EVLP. As in our pre-clinical studies, UVC does not alter virus quantities measured by PCR (virus fragments) during EVLP, however it does appear to confer impairment in virus infectivity. The combination of UVC therapy with an ultra-short course of direct anti-virus agents may provide the ability to prevent transmission altogether, allowing expansion of transplantation using HCV+ organs.

This is for 'cleaning' the lungs for a lung transplant though. Taking the lungs out of the body, treating them, and putting them back in seems a bit of a hassle :)



Whats with the jump in Ecuador? 11k plus in a day, that's half their total cases in one day.



Chicho said:

Whats with the jump in Ecuador? 11k plus in a day, that's half their total cases in one day.

Comparing their stats with a pic from the day before, GUAYAS jumped from 7391 cases to 15,365, most got a big increase compared to their previous total. They must have changed their way of reporting cases.

Ah, here it is
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-24/ecuador-test-results-are-in-and-confirmed-cases-have-doubled

An increased capacity to process coronavirus tests caused the number of confirmed cases in Ecuador to more than double in a day to 22,719, second only to Brazil in Latin America.

“It’s not a rebound, it’s the presentation of delayed results” that reflects greater capacity to carry out testing in more labs, Interior Minister Maria Paula Romo said during a presentation of the data. “That’s good news.”



Lafiel said:
Pemalite said:

Honestly? Surprised no one has jumped in to say he "didn't say that" and "it's been taken out of context" like what happens normally.

Light can penetrate tissue if it's strong enough though... But we should remember that UV light has a cancerous effect on the body.
https://www.who.int/uv/faq/whatisuv/en/index2.html

***************

Only 4 new cases of the Coronavirus in the last week for my whole state... It will be interesting to see how the rates change as we enter winter/cooler months.

from what I heard the offiicial statement is that he was sarcastic ..

imagine that, the president speaking sarcastically/joking in front of millions of viewers that hope for answers and direction, when 50k his citizens have already died of the disease..

in my opinion that's an even worse look than him just being dumb

He wasn't being sarcastic.
But if that is how Trump apologetics perceived it... They will really make up an excuse for anything.



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John2290 said:

Just found out that UV lights can be inserted under the skin and has been done... still can't inject disinfectants, though.

Alcohol is a disinfectant. It can be 'injected' orally.



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