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A local story, one of the families with someone in the local ICU (in medically induced coma) posted online what was going with them:
https://www.thewhig.com/news/local-news/covid-19-separates-patient-from-family/wcm/fd4e5551-fce4-4005-b64d-e0952df5fb09

It turns out the virus has already been spreading in a town just 10 km from here (where my wife's parents live) A road worker felt sick, tried to get tested on March 13th but got sent away since there weren't enough tests yet. They were basically reserved for health care workers until more tests would be available. He kept on working thinking it was not covid19 and ended up infecting his co worker(s) before ending up in the hospital on March 20th. According to the wife 4 out of 9 ICU beds are now in use by covid19 patients in the local hospital. Only the critical cases get hospitalized here.



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We legit gave no PPE for us first responders.
No hand sanitizer, no masks, no nitril gloves, nothing. Apparently they cannot source any... Because most of our supplies were exhausted during the bushfires and then the public hoarded what was left when the Corona virus hit.

We actually do have large amounts of hand sanitizer liquid... In barrels. - But the containers that are used to store them in are... *drumroll* Made in China.

Did several marine rescues over the weekend... And plucking members of the public out of the ocean means getting physical with other people... Plus stuck on a boat with limited space means we cannot enforce the 1.5 meter distancing rule, it is, what it is.

It's a good thing the Corona Virus is pretty much a non-issue here at the moment with no confirmed cases, but the risk is still there.

All the playgrounds, public tables and seats are all taped off now, all shops are closed except for supermarkets... Can't even go into EB Games anymore, need to do click and collect purchases.

Just wish shit could get back to normal. Sick of having to strip off in the fire truck or out in public and bag everything... And having to smell Glen 20 24/7.



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John2290 said:
Any ideas lads as to why I'm paying morr for shopping? Everything produced inside ireland is the same price, hasn't changed but I piad two euro more for a bottle of a 500ml aloe vera drink made in South Korea, I didn't realize until I checked the reciepts today, among a few other items that are up a few cents but not to that degree. Is this just Supply demmand (I'm leaning towards right now cause some items are down in price) or is it from some effect of the boarders? Or just a few companies taking advantage? Inflation surely won't start for a few months down the road, right...

Could result from higher shipping costs. For example we had to use planes instead of ships for medics lately (because ships aren't going as sheduled), which results in way higher costs. 



I trust those US numbers almost as little as China's.



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John2290 said:
vivster said:
I trust those US numbers almost as little as China's.

Why and how so?

Corruption. A lot of people have a vested interest to manipulate numbers. Incidentally, those are the people with the most power.



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Florida is still not shut down and people posted sky shots of beaches that were filled just yesterday until the mayor or whoever shut them down on the region. It could her worse for US again when states that didn't take this seriously start increasing in numbers while new York sort of calms down.



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SpokenTruth said:
vivster said:

Corruption. A lot of people have a vested interest to manipulate numbers. Incidentally, those are the people with the most power.

Extremely hard to manipulate the numbers in the US because of decentralization.  Each county individually reports to their state health boards who then send that data to the CDC and other agencies.  The county data is easily accessible for most of them. 

The corruption in The US happens on all levels. From the lowly sheriff to the president. It might not be a coordinated effort across the country to suppress numbers, but I'm very much sure that on all levels some numbers will be "lost". The highest achievement seems to be re-election and there are people willing to do everything to reach that goal.



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Chicho said:
JRPGfan said:

I wish the danish goverment gave out numbers for recovery / daily recovered, but they arnt.
We had +182 cases today.

^ the 1 number here, isnt given to the sites that update and track this virus spread.

Its something they found on their own, likely from a twitter account or something silly.
So we have no idea what the actual "real" total recovered number is.

Our government is keeping it hidden.
Though they said, next month (april) they will give a update to those numbers.

So the "best way" to look at this chart of numbers you have, is "total recovered" = "blank" (nothing in that field).
We dont know, our country doesnt share them (yet).

*edit:  I expect as soon as they give numbers, there should be like 600-700 recovered.



SpokenTruth said:

This is the positive cases in my county by age group. 
That whole notion that "it only affects old" is BS.  Under 55 = 80 cases.  Over 55 = 83 cases.

It affects everyone.
Theres 20 and 30 year olds, laying in hospitals on ventilators that would die without it.
(generally these make a swift recovery though)


"That whole notion that "it only affects old" is BS."   ---> should be "it mostly, kills the old"
(the young get to live, some just have bad lunges after, or damaged kidneys, livers)



vivster said:
Nevermind, Spain and France decided to die a lot today, so we're back up again.

expect deaths to be very high in France today or in the next days, as they decided to add estimates (based on symptoms, not necessarily on tests) for people dieing in their homes from the disease