sales2099 said:
goopy20 said:
I don't want to burst your bubble but we have this confirmed already by 343 themselves... Yes, if they were making 2 different games, with features missing in current gen consoles like we've seen with Horizon 2, it would be a different story. But they aren't talking about ports on different platforms, they are talking about scaling and using Xone as the base console, not the Series X. It's just like Gears 5, which does look better on X1X and pc, but it's still the exact same game on all platforms, where it's designed so the Xone version looks and plays identical. This is exactly what they're doing with Halo Infinite and their other cross gen exclusives for the coming years.
It something completely different than the next gen jump from Infamous 2 to Infamous SS or RDR1 to RDR2, where core game elements like the geometry got a complete overhaul. The only way they could port RDR2 over to the ps3/360 is by scaling it down to such a level, that it'll end up looking exactly like RDR 1.
Also, we have seen plenty of launch game that push next gen consoles. Ryze looked pretty great and something like the Order 1886 is still one of the best looking games out there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O964TILTZeU. The only thing I can agree on is that launch games usually don't have the best gameplay, probably because they tend to focus too much on showcasing the new tech.
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The Order and Ryse were just that. A taste. Glorified tech demos that didn’t offer critical acclaim on its merits. Ultimately both companies will underdeliver at launch, just like literally every gen before.
As a diehard Halo fan, I’m far more concerned with the game being great after Halo 5. And the cutting edge Slipspace Engine will go a long way to make Infinite look like no Halo before it. Still optimistic Halo will have features that won’t be on lesser hardware and fact is we won’t know until we see for ourselves. I suggest you worry less about what Xbox is doing and hope that Sony has something that can compete at launch.
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Well, we will have to wait and see if the launch titles will be a disappointment. I surely hope not and I think Sony will drop some bombs early to keep their momentum going. In the end I just want to see great next games and I don't really care if that's on ps5 or Series X, but I got a feeling you would be disappointed if the ps5 launch titles do make full use of things like the SSD tech, have better ai, physics, a generational boost in overall visual fidelity, and do turn out to be actual good games.
From what we've seen, the slipstream engine does look cutting edge and is designed to scale with next gen hardware. However, an engine is just a tool to drive the hardware and how much of the engine's capabilities they can use totally depends on the base console they're targeting. So yes, if Halo Infinite runs at 540p and drops to 15fps on Xone, it will probably look amazing on Series X. But from what 343 studios are saying, Xone will be the base console and they will likely target 1080p, 30fps (maybe even 60fps like in Halo 5) on Xone with visual parity across all platforms. This simply limits what 343 can do with their new engine on Series X. And who knows, but maybe it's the reason why both the creative director and lead producer of 343 studios quit a couple of months ago: https://wccftech.com/halo-infinite-lead-producer-leaves-343-industries/ or why Rod Fergusson quit Gears and went to Blizzard.
With the way Phil Spencer is talking about scaling on pc, I think Gears 5 is currently the best example of what they're aiming for as it does take good advantage of the strengths of all platforms. It's just a more subtle and strange approach to kick off a new console generation. And imo, not the best way to showcase what the Series X is capable off and persuade people to buy one. We will see at E3, but I got a feeling that the Series X will just be a small part of their presentation and they will talk a lot more about cloud gaming, putting the gamer at the center instead of the devices, and gaming on a ton of different devices. And it's going to be helluva confusing for Xbox fans who just want a next gen console.
Tokyo Game Show 2020 to Feature Next Generation Consoles and Cloud Gaming
The event will focus on the full-fledged launch of cloud gaming and its advanced gaming environment such as the start of 5G services for commercial use, and will boost the unprecedented gaming experience brought by new platforms. Moreover, TGS2020 will host the area where visitors can explore “new frontiers” of games through crossing over with education, fashion, arts and other industries.
http://www.vgchartz.com/article/442530/tokyo-game-show-2020-to-feature-next-generation-consoles-and-cloud-gaming/
I dunno guys but this sounds boring as shit and Cloud gaming is the last thing I want to hear about at the dawn of a new console generation.
Last edited by goopy20 - on 22 February 2020