Cerebralbore101 said:
Damn. They could launch at a $700 price tag, and it would still be a better price to performance ratio than a comparable PC. And I think that's even after new cards come out. I don't see the next gen 2080 equivalent GPU from AMD/Nvidia costing under $300. Add in a $50 basic case, $40 non-modular PSU, $70 Micro-ATX wifi-less Mobo, $70 for the SSD, $40 for 16 GB of RAM (RAM that's going to be a bit slower than what's in this thing), $35 for Windows, and maybe a 3700X at $200. IMO that's some serious corner cutting and we're already at $805, for a comparable PC build, at what I would consider Black Friday/Cyber Monday prices next year. I mean, we've yet to add a wireless controller, or keyboard/mouse. Personally, I think non-modular PSUs, $50 barebones cases, and Mini-ATX Mobos, are unacceptable for pretty much any PC build. And if this thing were to actually launch at $500? Edit: Saw Pema's post. Changing the card to a regular 2080. I still don't see the next gen equal to a 2080 costing under $300 though, so my price remains the same. |
Keep in mind that the PC has a completely and utterly different pricing model.
You might pay more for hardware (And you do, AMD/Intel/nVidia like a 60% or more profit margin on their hardware!), but you do get free online, cheaper accessories, superior performance, superior customizability, cheaper games, more games.
I have a spare PC for example that was built during the 7th gen consoles and it -will- be capable of playing 9th gen console games, so I would have had to buy an Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series X to play the same range of games as that one PC.
PC can beat consoles on a long-term cost basis.
| Ryuu96 said: I wonder what Microsoft will do if PS5 is more powerful than Series X and where that leaves Lockheart, it'd be a PR hit for them and they'd have to undercut PS5 but by how much? Original plans were for Series X to be stronger and Lockheart to be cheaper, would they really release two consoles weaker than the competition? Or just go all in on Series X to try to make it as cheap as possible. |
There will be some edge-cases where Xbox Series X will beat the Playstation 5, even if that console has more flops/ram/cpu cores/kittens, there is a substantial amount of semi-customization done to the silicon to offload tasks... I.E. Microsoft has offloaded decompression of data... So that compression and decompression can be done in real time with minimal/no hit to performance, which means that... Even though the SSD is roughly 2.5GB/s, we could potentially see actual throughput be almost double that, putting it in line with Sony's 5GB/s claims. (Granted we need more details on Sony's approach whether they are brute forcing or also using compression.)
There is allot more to it under the bonnet... And to be honest I am very happy with the hardware, it's going to be an impressive machine regardless of what Sony tries to do.
| Cerebralbore101 said: PC Gamers trying to build a Series X comparable rig at the same price point...
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Except in a couple years... The spare PC I built a decade before the Xbox Series X will be faster than the Xbox Series X once it has a GPU upgrade, can't do that with an Xbox 360... ;)
| Cerebralbore101 said: *cracks knuckles* Between re-buying Wii U games on Switch, and Nintendo's insane 2019, I've been getting buried for a while now. |
Been trying to avoid rebuying Wii U games on Switch... Then again, haven't had time for gaming as of late.
But I did buy Starlink on Xbox One and Nintendo Switch plus a heap of ships for like $10 brand new on clearance. So... #winning
trunkswd said:
Lionhead peaked with Fable 2. We all know what happened after that and Fable 3. Felt like a slow death for a once good studio. |
I actually didn't mind Fable 3... I just felt it didn't have enough time in development... Hence the lack of content that couldn't fill-in the time-skip, otherwise it was a pretty decent game.
After that it was Kinect this... Kinect that. And yeah.
Ryuu96 said:
Yeah they fucked up, though they've also been poorly managed both by Microsoft and Peter, I still think it's a shame they had to be shut down, Fable could have recovered from Fable 3 I think but they made a bunch of spin-offs nobody wanted...They also had other interesting IPs they didn't do anything with and multiple cancelled IPs that could have been great, like Eden Falls and BC, if they survived and maybe got revamped internally they could have been a Story Driven Action Adventure/RPG Powerhouse (Greenlight BC & Eden Falls, Reboot Fable). |
Lionhead also had another I.P up it's sleeve... Called Black and White, it's a damn shame it never made it to the Xbox console, it would have actually been a good game to push the Kinect with in my opinion.
| trunkswd said: People wanted Fable 4 and not a Kinect or whatever the other Fable spin-off game was they were working on before they were shut down. At this point Obsidian and Inxile are Microsoft's main story driven RPG studios. |
Microsoft was more or less trying to re-align itself I think... They shut down Ensemble Studios which in my opinion was and still is a catastrophic mistake, but it's all old news and things have changed for the better now it seems.
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