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Spade on 31 July 2020
iceland said:
Honestly couldn’t care less about a Warner bro’s acquisition but seeing them go to EA is concerning. MS save them please

Big facts. Having EA ruin another dev(s). Wonder how serious they are. 



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Shaunodon on 31 July 2020
trunkswd said:
shikamaru317 said:
It sounds like Gold being dropped in favor of free multiplayer and Halo having F2P multiplayer are designed to work in conjuction. They want to have a massive multiplayer playerbase for Halo, and feel like Gold and paid/Gamepass Halo MP would get in the way of that. They want Halo to compete with the top shooters on the market in terms of playerbase, which are mainly F2P games, like Fortnite, CoD Warzone, and Apex (only CoD paid non battle royale modes and Rainbow Six Siege are pay to play games out of the top 5 shooters on the market).

I am guessing we will get a Battle Pass type system where people pay $10 for a season and as they play they gain experience and level up to unlock cosmetics and in-game currency. 

Welp.



DroidKnight on 01 August 2020
Ryuu96 said:

Anyone have any predictions for how many players Halo Infinite will hit?

I made a thread about sales but with Gamepass and now free multi-player it kind of screws up the whole sales thing.  I'll stick with my number though, over 22 million easy.



...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.

jason1637 on 01 August 2020
Ryuu96 said:

Anyone have any predictions for how many players Halo Infinite will hit?

5 million in the first 24 hours



Angelus on 01 August 2020

This "How will Sony respond to Game Pass" thread is doing my head in. Honestly takes every ounce of self restraint to not go off on people in there and get banned. The amount of mental gymnastics is actually astonishing.



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derpysquirtle64 on 01 August 2020
shikamaru317 said:

So, we have Warren and Grubb on team free MP after Gold is dropped, while Jez and Brad Sams are on team Gamepass MP I think. Really hope it's free MP, while it would cost MS alot of early gen revenue, the potential long term benefits outweigh the lost short term revenue imo. Free MP while Sony continues to charge for PS+ could potentially drive several million extra console sales early gen, and all of those millions of people will be potential gamepass subs, and be buying games and accessories on Xbox over the course of the gen. Gamepass MP by comparison could actually hurt hardware sales since 12 months of PS+ on PS5 would be cheaper than 12 months of Gamepass. 

Jez says that they are only gonna drop it for F2P games maybe. But he doesn't see Gold going away right now. I'm still gonna go with Gold going away at Series X soon because there have been way too many things pointing to that. The Gold to GamePass conversion last year, removal of 12-month subscriptions, shitty GWG selection in the last months. It seems like MS looked at all these huge F2P games that bring a ton of money and realized that sometimes you can make way more money by using "free" model instead of trying to charge for something. But that's just my guess.



 

derpysquirtle64 on 01 August 2020
Ryuu96 said:

Anyone have any predictions for how many players Halo Infinite will hit?

Depends on what we assume as how many players? Lifetime player count? Peak concurrent players, first month player count, etc. As for lifetime player count, I would guess 10m+ easily, probably double than that if the game ends up being extremely successful



 

Conina on 01 August 2020
derpysquirtle64 said:

Jez says that they are only gonna drop it for F2P games maybe. But he doesn't see Gold going away right now. I'm still gonna go with Gold going away at Series X soon because there have been way too many things pointing to that. The Gold to GamePass conversion last year, removal of 12-month subscriptions, shitty GWG selection in the last months. It seems like MS looked at all these huge F2P games that bring a ton of money and realized that sometimes you can make way more money by using "free" model instead of trying to charge for something. But that's just my guess.

So if Gold is going away... what will happen to GWG games which are active in Gold months?

Will the licenses get invalid? This would be a massive shitstorm, when Microsoft pisses off their core fanbase. Especially since some games can't even be bought anymore in the marketplace like Forza Motorsport 6.

The only way to avoid that shitstorm would be to transform the temporary licenses with expiry date into permanent licenses.



KiigelHeart on 01 August 2020
Angelus said:
This "How will Sony respond to Game Pass" thread is doing my head in. Honestly takes every ounce of self restraint to not go off on people in there and get banned. The amount of mental gymnastics is actually astonishing.

Yeah I had to leave the thread after reading a handfull of posts spinning game pass as anti-consumer.

Goopy logic on Microsoft threads is enough for me lol.



KiigelHeart on 01 August 2020
derpysquirtle64 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Anyone have any predictions for how many players Halo Infinite will hit?

Depends on what we assume as how many players? Lifetime player count? Peak concurrent players, first month player count, etc. As for lifetime player count, I would guess 10m+ easily, probably double than that if the game ends up being extremely successful

10m lifetime player count would be a huge failure  for Halo. 10m+ the first year is my prediction.