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kirby007 on 15 June 2020
Angelus said:
Ryuu96 said:
shinobi602 said:
Indeed, it seems many have already made up their mind about what they're working on.

There's a reason Phil phrased it the way he did.

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Long shot: What if The Initiative is working on 2 IPs (New IP & Perfect Dark - Old IP)?

It'd be kinda funny if it turned out they weren't working on PD.

I never fully understood why everyone was so sure they were working on PD in the first place. Phil said they were working on new things in new ways, "old things" was pretty much tacked on in parenthesis, so it was never the primary focus of the tweet as it was written.

deffo BK:HU



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KiigelHeart on 15 June 2020

Phil to announce he's moneyhatted GTA6 as timed-exclusive for 10 years, then he takes off his shirt and performs "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Alice Cooper. During guitar solo he'll cut through a pile of PS5 consoles with a Lancer replica.



Angelus on 15 June 2020

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like that post had no actual new details. Didn't we already know all this?



kirby007 on 15 June 2020
Angelus said:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like that post had no actual new details. Didn't we already know all this?

we did but its easy to miss for those not really interested or as invested



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EspadaGrim on 15 June 2020

Zenimax/Bethesda would be worth it for MS, they would be a bigger prize than WB.

just hope that it would happen before Starfield and Elder Scrolls V are released.

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EspadaGrim on 15 June 2020
Ryuu96 said:
shinobi602 said:
Indeed, it seems many have already made up their mind about what they're working on.

There's a reason Phil phrased it the way he did.

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Long shot: What if The Initiative is working on 2 IPs (New IP & Perfect Dark - Old IP)?

It'd be kinda funny if it turned out they weren't working on PD.

I would be 100% happy if it’s a new IP because that still doesn’t rule out the possibility of a AAA Perfect Dark happening down the line.



AsGryffynn on 15 June 2020
Ryuu96 said:
shikamaru317 said:

Technically Insomniac is worth more than any of these studios, because Spider-Man sold 13m+ copies. The highest selling WB game is Rocksteady's Arkham City, which sold 12.5m+, slightly more than Arkham City in less time. Also Insomniac owned an IP, whereas the publisher owns the IP's in this case, and is selling them or licensing those IP's out individually from the studio acquisitions. So yeah, Insomniac should be worth more than any of these studios. 

That being said, Sony got Insomniac at a huge bargain. $229m for a studio that has developed 4m+ and 15m+ selling exclusives for them in the past (Resistance and Spider-Man), and an IP that has pretty good potential (Sunset Overdrive). Considering that Microsoft's Ensemble was valued at $500m when Mattrick stupidly closed them, 4 years after their last successful game (Age of Empires 3), Insomniac had just released an even more successful game (Spider-Man) a year before they were acquired by Sony. MS made a mistake letting Sony get them that cheap, should have started a bidding war with Sony for Insomniac, with an intention to turn Sunset Overdrive into a core IP for MS. 

But Insomniac doesn't own the Spider-Man IP, Sony does and even that is licensed out from Marvel so it would be exactly the same scenario with Rocksteady, Publisher would license out Batman from AT&T like Sony licenses out Spider-Man from Marvel and both licenses are 10m+ sellers.

Insomniac's owned IP would be almost a non-factor in their valuation, we have Sunset Overdrive which flopped. Ratchet and Resistance are both already owned by Sony so their valuation wouldn't be included in Insomniac's price.

Insomniac was likely valued on talent/size alone. Sadly most of the time a studio is only as valuable as the IP it owns, Microsoft tried to sell Lionhead once and practically everyone backed out when no IPs came with the acquisition, I bet the same thing would have happened to Ensemble.

In NetherRealm's case though, they actually own a successful IP in Mortal Kombat which would 100% come with the acquisition, they are an AAA studio with a lot of talent so I reckon they could fetch $200m+ easily on their own.

Looking at all the Xbox acquisitions too, a lot of very talented studios but it looks like Microsoft got all 7 studios for a maximum combined total of $800m, very likely way less than even that considering that $800m number includes multiple other acquisitions, I honestly doubt any of them went over $100m and that is in part because they own no valuable IPs themselves - Playground didn't own Horizon, Undead Labs didn't own State of Decay, Obsidian didn't own almost any of it's RPGs, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rocksteady & NetherRealm ended up costing more than Insomniac on a individual basis, one actually owns a successful IP, the other comes with a license (Batman) (Whereas Sony already had the Spider-Man license). I feel like they'd both be in the $200m-$300m region, potentially even more but I'm not sure if a successful owned IP is more valuable than a successful license.

I'm starting to think buying Mistwalker, Valhalla and begging Sega to let them buy BR would be a good move now. They have plenty of dev muscle but few IPs... 



jason1637 on 15 June 2020

Would be cool if MS releases the SSD expansion a week before the Series X launch so we can preload games into it from the Xbox One and wont have to wait and download launch games during launch day.



jason1637 on 15 June 2020
shikamaru317 said:
jason1637 said:
Would be cool if MS releases the SSD expansion a week before the Series X launch so we can preload games into it from the Xbox One and wont have to wait and download launch games during launch day.

How would that work though? The SSD cartridges have a proprietary connector afaik, how would you connect them to your PC or Xbox One to download the games before launch?

Best we can hope for is they bundle say 1 month of Gamepass with Series X, and use that new Digital Direct thing to have a selection of 2020 1st party games ready installed on your Series X SSD through that 1 month of Gamepass. 

Huh, for some reason I thought the SSD was using a USB.



EspadaGrim on 15 June 2020

Benjisales says on Twitter that MS will announce New IP, probably Obsidian’s AAA IP and maybe the Initiave depending if it’s PD or not. I doubt that Inxile are ready and I hope that MS has at least one surprise AAA 3rd party exclusive in the works.