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Spade on 20 January 2022

I suspect it means Call of Duty as a whole. You know if the roles were reversed we wouldn't be seeing any scraps.



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kirby007 on 20 January 2022
Ryuu96 said:

1st part was obvious, 2nd part is extremely vague, likely means Warzone, Phil is playing lip-service to get through the anti-trust, we'll likely hear nice statements like this for the whole year

these days anything with relationship means buy



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EspadaGrim on 20 January 2022

Phil’s statements don’t mean much right now, but imo if they don’t make CoD games full exclusive when they take control then this move is a bust for me.

Imagine still helping Sony when you just made the biggest acquisition in Gaming by nearly 6 fold and not reaping the full benefits.



EspadaGrim on 20 January 2022
the-pi-guy said:

Sony has a marketing deal for Call of Duty games, probably for the next 3 or 4 years. Depending on the exact details of the contract, Call of Duty will likely continue releasing on PlayStation for the next few years. After that it will almost certainly become exclusive.

EspadaGrim said:

Phil’s statements don’t mean much right now, but imo if they don’t make CoD games full exclusive when they take control then this move is a bust for me.

Imagine still helping Sony when you just made the biggest acquisition in Gaming by nearly 6 fold and not reaping the full benefits.

The alternative is probably paying a few hundred million dollars to get out of the marketing contract. (I don't know the exact amount, but considering how big CoD is, it probably is pretty decently sized.)

But this deal isn't about beating Sony. It's about expanding Gamepass, Metaverse.

And you expand Gamepass by expanding Xbox users because the majority of Gamepass subscribers are on Xbox compared to PC. Making it exclusive will ensure more users in your ecosystem and by in turn gaining more subscribers.



Angelus on 20 January 2022

Warzone will stay on PS, that's a given.

I'd be extremely surprised if any new standalone CoD beyond next year shows up on PS.



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EspadaGrim on 20 January 2022

The dumbest part about this is that whatever marketing/content deal for Sony has for CoD could prevent MS from putting CoD 2023 on GP.



Imaginedvl on 20 January 2022
Ryuu96 said:

This simply means 2 things, there is really nothing else:

- Existing games will stay there and we will honor any existing contract

- For new COD, "we have the desire" to, but you need to let GP on Play Station... 

Using "desire" here is on purpose.

EDIT: Actually, GP was PROBABLY one of the main topic of those calls...

Sony: "Will you keep COD on our box?"

Microsoft: "Of course we desire only that, any GamePass platform will get COD. wadayousay?" 

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Imaginedvl on 20 January 2022
the-pi-guy said:

Sony has a marketing deal for Call of Duty games, probably for the next 3 or 4 years. Depending on the exact details of the contract, Call of Duty will likely continue releasing on PlayStation for the next few years. After that it will almost certainly become exclusive.

One thing to keep in mind tho regarding those deals. It usually comes with breach of contract section (usually paying money to compensate).

Microsoft could also decide to do that. And this would explain why Sony wrote that on their Twitters...

They know this can happen and Microsoft could simply pay it out.

So even if Sony has a 3 or 4 years deal, it does not mean a lot, the deal is probably few millions... Microsoft will likely choose to pay them off (even if Sony do want that obviously)



Machiavellian on 20 January 2022
EspadaGrim said:
the-pi-guy said:

Sony has a marketing deal for Call of Duty games, probably for the next 3 or 4 years. Depending on the exact details of the contract, Call of Duty will likely continue releasing on PlayStation for the next few years. After that it will almost certainly become exclusive.

The alternative is probably paying a few hundred million dollars to get out of the marketing contract. (I don't know the exact amount, but considering how big CoD is, it probably is pretty decently sized.)

But this deal isn't about beating Sony. It's about expanding Gamepass, Metaverse.

And you expand Gamepass by expanding Xbox users because the majority of Gamepass subscribers are on Xbox compared to PC. Making it exclusive will ensure more users in your ecosystem and by in turn gaining more subscribers.

Or you can push GP on every device that can play games and get people to sub because one place will have it all with one sub.  I believe you are way to narrow in your focus on consoles and MS has moved beyond console wars.  Its the sub wars now and getting an eco system that has the most top rated games in one place.  Forget the console wars, MS isn't spending billions trying to win that battle anymore.



jason1637 on 20 January 2022

Do you guys think MS actually wants GP on Playstation? Cause lets say that happens then whats the reason to get an Xbox over a PS5?