The more reason to go with RTX 2080 or premium one, and I am agree with your statement . Nvidia will come out with new GPU in 2020 and the price of RTX card also will be cheaper. Both PS5 and Xbox X will be around RTX 2080 or 2070 .  

Sometimes it feels like talking to a wall. 

In another thread you said something like "people need to upgrade their PCs very soon" as if nothing below the next gen PCs is acceptable. When you read that PS5 could be 30% weaker than Series X it's "almost not noticeable" for you (so, why exactly does a PC gamer need to upgrade then, even 50% or more performance difference shouldn't be much of a difference with your logic)

And when I tell you that there are a lot of reasons why someone would choose a PC instead of a console even with a not so strong GPU you try to spin that argument in a "The more reason to go with RTX 2080 or premium one"

Having so many options on PC to lower different settings is great for people without a strong GPU. They may decrease some stuff they don't care about to even low settings to have more power for stuff THEY care about more instead of having the game developer deciding for them how good the quality has to be.

For many on PC it's also fine to play only in 1080p for some more years to have more room for higher setting in general. Running a game like a potato just for high FPS is also something many do. There are just so many different gamers with different preferences. Maybe you will understand that one time.

I don't even try to explain the other reasons I mentioned and how this doesn't automatically mean you should buy a premium GPU for that. 

You are not making any sense. To get to 16G on a 320bit bus, You'd install:

6 2G chips on 3 controllers, 4 1G chips on 2 controllers.

This means you'd spend a lot of money on 5 instead of only 4 controllers on the die (unlike 8 2G chips like on the PS5), you preorder a "small" mixture of 2G and 1G chips instead of a single, large order of 2G chips (again adding costs, and bureaucracy on top of it). If the XSX has indeed a 320 bit bus (which is not out of possibility, as people seem to see 10 ram chips on the dev unit), it would be 10 2G chips for a total of 20GBytes. Then if you wished you could work your ways into splitting the system into a partially divided cpu/gpu memory access structure but I highly doubt this would make any sense.

And lastly, high TFlop numbers always mean high memory bandwidth, so you'd want as wide a bus as possible (particularly since ray tracing is a serious burden on the bus).

Not really. Don't hold weight to any rumor.

NVMe speed? That is a broad statement... And a useless one at that too.
It could be 50MB/s it could be 2,500MB/s... So which is it?

Xbox consoles at 1.5GB/s speed?

PS5 at 2.5GB/s speed?

Guys a new Youtube video from Redgamingtech, he was the first to leak Navi 10 would be at geforce 2070 performance and first to leak this image:

His new video talks about specs for PS5 and Xbox Series X:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuB9Nd3nKhs

Here's the short version:

PS5 devkit: 10.54TF (40CU, 2060mhz), 572GB/s memory bandwidth, 16GB Vram

PS5 retail: 9.2TF (36CU, 2ghz) 512 GB/s memory bandwidth

Xbox Series X: 12TF (52/56CU, 1,7-1,8ghz) 560 GB/s memory speed.

He also made another video suggested that next-gen consoles will use Tsmc 7nm Euv. Looks like it's all over now, finally :)

You won't reach those speeds unless you transfer huge file sizes. They will use it mainly for gaming where the reading speed will be much, much lower depending on files size and amount. They could also go for SATA 3 SSD. Difference in this environment is so small its not even noticeable. Important part is the low access time to files. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3AMz-xZ2VM

10th "it is finally over" by my count.

Looks like you know a lot about this stuff, Sony/Microsoft are supposed to use optimized NVMe to reduce loading much faster than what is possible on PC.

It's actually my second time, when I said it the first time it was actually exactly the same spec except oberon was the devkit.

Sometimes it feels like talking to a wall. 

In another thread you said something like "people need to upgrade their PCs very soon" as if nothing below the next gen PCs is acceptable. When you read that PS5 could be 30% weaker than Series X it's "almost not noticeable" for you (so, why exactly does a PC gamer need to upgrade then, even 50% or more performance difference shouldn't be much of a difference with your logic)

And when I tell you that there are a lot of reasons why someone would choose a PC instead of a console even with a not so strong GPU you try to spin that argument in a "The more reason to go with RTX 2080 or premium one"

Having so many options on PC to lower different settings is great for people without a strong GPU. They may decrease some stuff they don't care about to even low settings to have more power for stuff THEY care about more instead of having the game developer deciding for them how good the quality has to be.

For many on PC it's also fine to play only in 1080p for some more years to have more room for higher setting in general. Running a game like a potato just for high FPS is also something many do. There are just so many different gamers with different preferences. Maybe you will understand that one time.

I don't even try to explain the other reasons I mentioned and how this doesn't automatically mean you should buy a premium GPU for that. 

Looks like you know a lot about this stuff, Sony/Microsoft are supposed to use optimized NVMe to reduce loading much faster than what is possible on PC.