Yeah. Any lefty who knew about Ngo knew he wasn’t a real journalist, though I’m sure this won’t effect the right wing’s view of him. I’m a little surprised Quillette fired him, guess this went a little too far for them. XD

Nobody would care if he'd have been a white man.

Good read.

That's the guy who purposefully got himself beat up, right? We already knew long ago that he is a supporter of far right groups, so why is this news? He should be in jail for his right wing propaganda and hate speech but fat chance in that country.

Wtf? So his crime is he DIDN'T report on something..? Am I missing something here? Am I the crazy one??

I don't know anything about this "Patriot's Prayer" but I DO know that it's not fucking ok for a journalist to get beat up because his politics are different than yours. And yes - Quilette verified that Andy IS (or at least WAS), in fact, an editor for the publication and that they're of a CENTER LEFT persuasion. Not that that should matter.. It's just that the modern left has gone so far off the deep end that center-left = far right to them now (because relatively speaking on the political compass, it's technically true from where they stand!)

Jesus christ, the mental gymnastics some people go through to convince themselves this shit flies..

I love the excuse of "he had it coming" or "GOT HIMSELF beat up," rather than placing blame on the people who ACTUALLY beat this man up, as if they're little children or somehow can't control their own psychotic tantrums. Doesn't sound unlike the excuses a rapist uses! "ehhh she had it comin'!"

Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised, given the utter lack of accountability/responsibility anymore, especially in the US.. Everything I do that's bad "isn't my fault! It's this guy's fault!"

I swear, we've completely devolved into savages and spoiled children. It's frightening...

Just so I have this straight, you're saying that you don't have a problem with a journalist hearing plans for violence and not reporting on them?  That's absolutely fine with you?

I generally prefer not to get in the middle of conflicts concerning mutual political violence that decent human beings shouldn't be engaging in or legitimizing in the first place, but I will say this: while so-called hate speech is itself broadly legal in this country (hence why I'm allowed to speak ), you do have to report crimes when you know about them. That is, in fact, a common sense legal obligation of Americans.

There is a fine line between exercising one's freedom of speech (which is something I unfashionably very much believe in) and knowingly aiding the commission of physical violence toward political aims, much as there is a fine line between criticizing someone and threatening them. Your rights end where those of others begin. I don't believe that there is a natural right to positive vibes and approval like many leftists do today, but I do believe people have the right to be safe from actual attack or direct threats thereof.

No surprises here now I wonder if other right wing journalist are doing similar things.

If it's proven these guys were plotting an attack on innocence and Andy heard this and knowingly kept it quiet then - no I'm not saying that's ok either. But neither is beating somebody up for political reasons - and possibly giving permanent brain damage in the process.. You know, the violent act that actually DID occur? Meanwhile, many seem to be ok with THAT.. 

I mean.. I feel like if you submit that a conspiracy to cover up or fail to report on a violent act is wrong (which yes, I agree it is).. Why then is an ACTUAL act of violence ok?? Just b/c it's the far left carrying out the act rather than the far right? Bs!

And Klantifa wouldn't have even known about this at the time they were bashing in Andy's skull anyway, right? As far as they knew he was just a reporter filming the scene.. 

Maybe it's just b/c I'm pretty center-left on the left right spectrum that to MY eyes political violence = political violence. Period. Doesn't freaking matter what tribe you belong to. It should ALL be shunned.

you missed the part where people in this thread are saying he should be in jail and deserved to get beat up... again

am I in some fucking bizarro universe right now?