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HeavenlyWarrior on 27 May 2019
Lafiel said:
DonFerrari said:

Not really, you can always use a proxy in the middle.

Or you can use the plants of Sony and MS in Brazil.

Brazil afaik slapped a 75% import tariff on electronics (or atleast some of them) coming into the country and I'm pretty sure the rest of the world returned the favor and imposed tariffs on those same categories of goods from Brazil. So, I'm not sure sending over consoles assembled in Brazil is cheaper.

Trump and Brasil's new president are allies

I hope it means that we have better taxes for both countries



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PortisheadBiscuit on 27 May 2019
vivster said:
I know how it is to fake that you're working so you don't get fired, but at least I'm not hurting a whole country with it.

Anything for more golf time



Lafiel on 27 May 2019
HeavenlyWarrior said:

Trump and Brasil's new president are allies

I hope it means that we have better taxes for both countries

they also are both nationalists that don't believe in win/win situations, for someone to win someone else has to lose in their worldviews



Immersiveunreality on 27 May 2019
KManX89 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

That's more of libertarian thing.

I'm kinda indifferent about this because democrats admit they want raise taxes significantly. So its not like the alternative is a better scenario per se. Frankly, they want people to have less buying power.

So... lets see how this ends I guess.

Nope, you always hear Republicans decry taxes as the next coming of Satan, how the government should leave millionaires/billionaires/mega corporations and their piles of cash alone.

It'll be interesting to see them try and DEFEND raising taxes now that their orange overlord is waging war with China and will be effectively slapping a $600 price tag on next-gen consoles, which I'm willing to bet has happened already. The hypocrisy there will be fucking hilarious to see.

Always interesting to see how people talk about politics, extreme this and extreme that and rarely a more truthfull middleground comes up because the focus often lies on putting blame on the other side instead of reality.

All good material for a comedic movieparody ofcourse,that would be excellent usage for these hyperboles.



DonFerrari on 27 May 2019
Immersiveunreality said:
KManX89 said:

Nope, you always hear Republicans decry taxes as the next coming of Satan, how the government should leave millionaires/billionaires/mega corporations and their piles of cash alone.

It'll be interesting to see them try and DEFEND raising taxes now that their orange overlord is waging war with China and will be effectively slapping a $600 price tag on next-gen consoles, which I'm willing to bet has happened already. The hypocrisy there will be fucking hilarious to see.

Always interesting to see how people talk about politics, extreme this and extreme that and rarely a more truthfull middleground comes up because the focus often lies on putting blame on the other side instead of reality.

All good material for a comedic movieparody ofcourse,that would be excellent usage for these hyperboles.

I don't remember the last time I have heard the newspaper in Brazil use "right wing", anything right of social democracy is already extreme or ultra right for them, and of course communism or socialism isn't extreme left because for them anything on the left isn't extreme, it is desirable.



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Ck1x on 27 May 2019

Trump is such an idiot, he has no clue how economics works!
Which is why he's filed bankruptcy so many times in his life. Americans will pay for his stupidity and his supporters will enable him all the way to the unemployment line.



mjk45 on 27 May 2019
Bofferbrauer2 said:
KLXVER said:

Yet we pay more. I would love to have a 300$ Switch for example.

Edit: Actually the dollar is pretty strong right now, so its not that much of a difference.lol

Yeah, and our price in Europe includes VAT. Add VAT on US consoles and they're more expensive in the US anyway.

Don't US consumers pay  sales tax at a state by state level?



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Mr Puggsly on 28 May 2019
vivster said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I think Venezuela is a good choice.

Countries destroyed by communism are always great for producing crap.

Or Africa! Countries destroyed by capitalism are always great for producing crap.

Please elaborate! I'd love to see the mental gymnastics required to make this point.



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Mr Puggsly on 28 May 2019
KManX89 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

That's more of libertarian thing.

I'm kinda indifferent about this because democrats admit they want raise taxes significantly. So its not like the alternative is a better scenario per se. Frankly, they want people to have less buying power.

So... lets see how this ends I guess.

Nope, you always hear Republicans decry taxes as the next coming of Satan, how the government should leave millionaires/billionaires/mega corporations and their piles of cash alone.

It'll be interesting to see them try and DEFEND raising taxes now that their orange overlord is waging war with China and will be effectively slapping a $600 price tag on next-gen consoles, which I'm willing to bet has happened already. The hypocrisy there will be fucking hilarious to see.

Me thinks democrats actually like the trade war just as an excuse to attack Trump. Dems brag about wanting to raise taxes which affects everybody, rich and poor. Meanwhile republicans like to talk about cutting taxes and spending, but are ironically are big spenders as well.

I don't deny the irony at all, that's the great thing about being in the center. But maybe there is also irony in left wingers mocking Trump for higher taxes when his opposition is objectively huge proponents of higher taxes on everybody.

On a side note, its not like the people mocking Trump have solutions to dealing with the threat that is China. Instead people on the left seem to deny China is even a problem which is odd when you take everything into consideration.



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haxxiy on 28 May 2019
SpokenTruth said:
haxxiy said:

The "Yahoo" brand of internet services and the company which owns 16% shares on Alibaba have nothing to do with each other nowadays. The former is owned by Verizon, and the latter (which is literally over an order of magnitude more valuable than the Yahoo brand itself) is an independent investment company going by another name.

Either way, the censorship of Google predates these deals by years.

I believe you have that backwards.  Yahoo invested $1 billion into Alibaba back in 2005 (40% ownership).  China started blocking Google services in 2009 (Youtube) with another round of blocks in 2011 (Docs, Sites, Plus) and most being blocked in 2014 (Search, APIs, Gmail). 

While true the 2017 Verizon/Yahoo deal (known as Altaba and still has a 16% stake in Alibaba) is very different, that's not how it was back when Google was getting blocked...and Yahoo was not.

You're right. It's not the censorship of Google specifically, but of the Internet that predates the deal. Either way, Yahoo is not, and has never been, a popular search engine in China. Even today it's behing Google and Bing.

If someone believes it was lobbying, they have at least to agree it's piss poor lobbying. The main beneficiaries of the censorship have been Baidu, Soso and Sugou... Alibaba's direct competitors in the internet services market.