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o_O.Q said:
good i'm a big fan, have a platinum in sr 3 on psn
enjoyed it way more than i thought i would

that said i hope they take out the super power stuff



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Mr Puggsly said:
Ganoncrotch said:
right now is a bad time to be talking about their next project imo, they've just dropped a steaming log on the Switch that needs proper work before they move onto the next project, the port is worse than the x360 era version of it.

I agree the Switch version of Saint's Row 3 is technically disappointing, but that's not crucial for the series.

Their bread and butter is the Xbox, PlayStation and PC audience, the Switch version is just unfortunate. Either way its takes less people handle/fix a port versus the next game in the series.

Right now the Switch is selling around as much as the ps4 and X1 combined so realistically those audiences might be their "bread and butter" but there is the same amount of bread/butter right now looking at their dogshit port of SR3 and thinking, "fuck them".

Switch version in the current state isn't "unfortunate" btw, considering ports of things like HellBlade, Doom and MK11 from the current gen machines dropping a game from the PS360 era onto the Switch which functions worse than those 13 year old machines is pathetic, not unfortunate.



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LittleSnake said:

Honestly though, it was the best one. Saints Row IV got boring once you had all the powers and you were pretty much invincible. I never played the second SR so I can't criticise that, but the first one was alright. No Professor Genki's magically appearing in it ): I never finished Gat out of Hell because it was lame when I started playing it. It didn't appeal to me like SR3 did, never kept my interest. I also missed the creativity of making your own character.

If there is a new game, I want more challenges involving Professor Genki, hands down. But I don't think there will be a new game to be honest. 

Strangely, you were more invincible in the 3rd game, as you could actually upgrade yourself to being immune to all damage, something you couldn't do in the 4th one. Again, strange since in the 4th you were basically in the Matrix, so should have been able to become invincible. But, yea, while I loved the 4th and GOOH, I want something closer to the 3rd, including being able to pay a shit ton of money to become invincible.

I found that I could still die in the 3rd game. You're not entirely immune to all damage, if you're stuck under a car, you can still get pretty injured. It would be nice to pay heaps of money to become invincible, having too much money sitting around is kind of boring. 



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Ganoncrotch said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I agree the Switch version of Saint's Row 3 is technically disappointing, but that's not crucial for the series.

Their bread and butter is the Xbox, PlayStation and PC audience, the Switch version is just unfortunate. Either way its takes less people handle/fix a port versus the next game in the series.

Right now the Switch is selling around as much as the ps4 and X1 combined so realistically those audiences might be their "bread and butter" but there is the same amount of bread/butter right now looking at their dogshit port of SR3 and thinking, "fuck them".

Switch version in the current state isn't "unfortunate" btw, considering ports of things like HellBlade, Doom and MK11 from the current gen machines dropping a game from the PS360 era onto the Switch which functions worse than those 13 year old machines is pathetic, not unfortunate.

Yeah, that's not how this works. Equal size audience doesn't mean the audience has the same interest. I think the Switch has more core gamers than Wii, but the general Nintendo audience and technical limitations don't make Switch a priority.

Unfortunate or pathetic, whatever. Saint's Row 3 should be better on Switch based on other 7th gen ports. Before we even consider if the next Saint's Row is feasible on Switch, I think we need to see what it is. I mean we don't want an open world game on Switch that looks like Ark.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Right now the Switch is selling around as much as the ps4 and X1 combined so realistically those audiences might be their "bread and butter" but there is the same amount of bread/butter right now looking at their dogshit port of SR3 and thinking, "fuck them".

Switch version in the current state isn't "unfortunate" btw, considering ports of things like HellBlade, Doom and MK11 from the current gen machines dropping a game from the PS360 era onto the Switch which functions worse than those 13 year old machines is pathetic, not unfortunate.

Yeah, that's not how this works. Equal size audience doesn't mean the audience has the same interest. I think the Switch has more core gamers than Wii, but the general Nintendo audience and technical limitations don't make Switch a priority.

Unfortunate or pathetic, whatever. Saint's Row 3 should be better on Switch based on other 7th gen ports. Before we even consider if the next Saint's Row is feasible on Switch, I think we need to see what it is. I mean we don't want an open world game on Switch that looks like Ark.

Nope, an open world game like Zelda or Skyrim though, those two open world games which function perfectly on the switch, that's just fine.

But if you want to try and convince yourself that "switch sales numbers don't count because I'd like them not to" ignoring things like the m rated games from Japan being localized on it and not the ps4 then there's no point in discussing this really with you I think. Would just be a case of numbers and game releases showing one thing and your feelings showing another that I could not or would not bother showing you information to change.

You know what? Maybe they'll make a Xbox one X exclusive saints row in 4k because that would be the best audience who would love that game right?



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Ganoncrotch said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Yeah, that's not how this works. Equal size audience doesn't mean the audience has the same interest. I think the Switch has more core gamers than Wii, but the general Nintendo audience and technical limitations don't make Switch a priority.

Unfortunate or pathetic, whatever. Saint's Row 3 should be better on Switch based on other 7th gen ports. Before we even consider if the next Saint's Row is feasible on Switch, I think we need to see what it is. I mean we don't want an open world game on Switch that looks like Ark.

Nope, an open world game like Zelda or Skyrim though, those two open world games which function perfectly on the switch, that's just fine.

But if you want to try and convince yourself that "switch sales numbers don't count because I'd like them not to" ignoring things like the m rated games from Japan being localized on it and not the ps4 then there's no point in discussing this really with you I think. Would just be a case of numbers and game releases showing one thing and your feelings showing another that I could not or would not bother showing you information to change.

You know what? Maybe they'll make a Xbox one X exclusive saints row in 4k because that would be the best audience who would love that game right?

 Sigh... I really hope you didnt actually read what I said. Atleast I wouldnt question your reading comprehension.

Was this a debate on whether or not Switch could do open world games? No.

Nintendo platforms since Wii havent done a great job, or as good of job moving core 3rd party software as Xbox and Playstation. Not really a debate even if Nintendo consoles have had some success there.

The userbase certainly matters for Switch, this is why their 1st party games are doing extremely well. Its not reflected equally on 3rd party core games though.

Xbox One and PS4 hardware are very similar and thats why they share a lot of games. Supporting Switch is clearly more difficult and is often handled by a different studio. MK11 is a recent example.

If you were less passionate about Switch, simply looked at facts, you would make an occasional valid argument.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Nope, an open world game like Zelda or Skyrim though, those two open world games which function perfectly on the switch, that's just fine.

But if you want to try and convince yourself that "switch sales numbers don't count because I'd like them not to" ignoring things like the m rated games from Japan being localized on it and not the ps4 then there's no point in discussing this really with you I think. Would just be a case of numbers and game releases showing one thing and your feelings showing another that I could not or would not bother showing you information to change.

You know what? Maybe they'll make a Xbox one X exclusive saints row in 4k because that would be the best audience who would love that game right?

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Ganoncrotch said:
Mr Puggsly said:

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Eh, no guarantee. I could forget. I honestly respond to the comments, the user is secondary. But discussions could stay more respectful if you don't jump to conclusions or be less condescending.

I feel the Switch isn't a priority for the series which isn't that surprising. Regardless you talk hardware sales but negate the audience, you talk about Japanese mature games when the discussion is about a western game, you talk about Switch's ability to handle open world games as if they're all equal in technical demands, you suggest the X1X should get the next game as an exclusive which is a completely irrelevant jab, etc.

Hence, you're part of the problem and demand a safe space.

Lastly, Digital Foundry just did an analysis video and gave evidence the engines of older games simply don't translate to Switch well unless major work is done (work = money). Switch has limited specs so it can't brute force better visuals and performance like X1 or PS4.



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Ganoncrotch said:
Mr Puggsly said:

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They have reported to work on a big patch that release the 16th but they also asked if their is a problem that they seem they can't copy you should let them know.

https://www.deepsilver.com/en/saints-row-the-third-the-full-package-switch-patch-notes-2/

For anyone experiencing any issues with SR3 Switch, we are currently tracking these and need additional info from players. Please email techsupport@deepsilver.com with exact details and include Switch info (game ver, Switch OS ver, Micro SD card details, if jailbroken, etc.)






konnichiwa said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Genuine request, Don't reply to any of my posts again on this site. Thanks.

They have reported to work on a big patch that release the 16th but they also asked if their is a problem that they seem they can't copy you should let them know.

https://www.deepsilver.com/en/saints-row-the-third-the-full-package-switch-patch-notes-2/

For anyone experiencing any issues with SR3 Switch, we are currently tracking these and need additional info from players. Please email techsupport@deepsilver.com with exact details and include Switch info (game ver, Switch OS ver, Micro SD card details, if jailbroken, etc.)

Yeah I seen and replied to that Tweet of theirs, I'm not paying 40e to get to beta test their game, that's BS, the game makes the Switch so unstable while it's running right now to the point where I would not want it running on my system, I've read about people getting corrupt data both save and game data on their SD card from running the game in the current form, I have a 400GB Micro SD card in my Switch I don't really wanna have to redownload 350GB or so of other games because SR3 shits all over my system when I try to buy an upgrade from the store.

I appreciate you bringing up the tweet, please don't mistake my angst at the game/devs for me being upset at you for raising the thing here. I think the only fair reply to "what's wrong with this game" would be

At the port, possibly with a link to that DF video... because man, that's grim how it performs so poorly, although they point out that it's running at 720p/1080p but taking dives down to the teens in frame rate, I would so much rather it run at 540p/720p but be stable than the travesty that exists atm.

Just imagining it being there as a graphic option in the menu [High Resolution] <-> [Actually Playable]



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