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KLAMarine said:

Wiki doesn't seem to list one...

QAnon seems a frayed group. Maybe they're not a group... More like an idea?

It lists several sites such as 4chan, 8chan, 8kun, and QMap.

I think you're confusing 'group' with 'organization'. No one here is claiming that QAnon is an official organization.



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By far the best thing Republicans have done to expose any Liberal Democrats these days. Preach your socialists values onto the people but not practice it in your backyard. And I see a lot of people in this thread willing to eat up this shit. It's why grifters like AOC exists.

Still remember seeing some brain dead post in this forum(probably a different thread) about illegal immigrants having a right to enter and stay in this country and that people like me who entered legally(waited 10 years to get in here) should not complain.

Bonus points since people here will still say Trump's a Xenophobe despite doing the right thing by actually enforcing border security.


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iron_megalith said:


My god what a crappy video, this guy is a wanna be Tucker Carlson I suppose.  Seriously this dude try to score point using already debunked claim like this one which was debunked 7 month ago.



iron_megalith said:

By far the best thing Republicans have done to expose any Liberal Democrats these days. Preach your socialists values onto the people but not practice it in your backyard. And I see a lot of people in this thread willing to eat up this shit. It's why grifters like AOC exists.

Still remember seeing some brain dead post in this forum(probably a different thread) about illegal immigrants having a right to enter and stay in this country and that people like me who entered legally(waited 10 years to get in here) should not complain.

Bonus points since people here will still say Trump's a Xenophobe despite doing the right thing by actually enforcing border security.

They did practice those values.  They took care of the migrants.  

Are you unfamiliar with asylum?

Trump's xenophobia stems not from wanting to enforce border security but how he wanted to enforce it, why he wanted to enforce and how targeted his enforcement was. 



To the privileged, equality feels like oppression. 

Took care of immigrants then sent them away within 52 hours.

LMAO. Ok.



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EpicRandy said:
iron_megalith said:


My god what a crappy video, this guy is a wanna be Tucker Carlson I suppose.  Seriously this dude try to score point using already debunked claim like this one which was debunked 7 month ago.

Imagine using Politifact but ok.



Hiku said:
iron_megalith said:

By far the best thing Republicans have done to expose any Liberal Democrats these days. 

The reason Progressives don't want to back Liberal Democrats unless there's no other choice is because they are generally supportive of right wing policies. Just to a lesser degree than Republicans. Even Bernie Sanders is barely left of center compared to other developed nations.
People who think this is exposing something haven't been paying attention for the past few decades.

iron_megalith said:

Bonus points since people here will still say Trump's a Xenophobe despite doing the right thing by actually enforcing border security.

Does lying about who's going to pay for the wall count as doing the right thing?
Mexico's president told him they were not going to pay for it during their meeting while he was still campaigning, but Trump did not reveal this to his supporters, and instead continued lying. And of course, tax payers ended up paying for it. And it ended up costing them many times more than what was originally claimed.

Fantastic, when the vast majority of illegal immigrants don't even cross the border, but come in through plane and overstay their visas.
The wall is rather innefective. Especially for its price. It's main value is serving as a racist monument.

Border security is being enforced.
Trump is a xenophobe/racist etc, for many many reasons, including because he said Mexicans coming to US are rapists and drugdealers, except presumably some, who are good people. Can't be sure about that one, so it's good that he added "we assume" and "some", regarding there being good people, while he didn't do that for the rapist and dug dealers part.

A former neo-nazi leader said that this was the remark that won them over.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/

“What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.”

From WaPo itself. A severely brain dead leftist propaganda news. Whether you wanna argue about what "in many cases" mean it still doesn't equate to an absolute that it means all Mexicans.



iron_megalith said:

By far the best thing Republicans have done to expose any Liberal Democrats these days. Preach your socialists values onto the people but not practice it in your backyard. And I see a lot of people in this thread willing to eat up this shit. It's why grifters like AOC exists.

Still remember seeing some brain dead post in this forum(probably a different thread) about illegal immigrants having a right to enter and stay in this country and that people like me who entered legally(waited 10 years to get in here) should not complain.

Bonus points since people here will still say Trump's a Xenophobe despite doing the right thing by actually enforcing border security.


Let me ask a question, did you wait 10 years to be a citizen, or did you wait 10 years before coming to America or did you live here for 10 years before you got papers for permanent resident.  Each situation is unique in itself.

Here is my respond to this.  First, the GOP never notified any city or state of their intentions, they dropped people off and then left without any assistance.  That is actually not showing anything as I could take a bum off the street and drop them off at any one of the GOP homes and see how much their Christian values would come into play.  

Instead, the reason why it's a political stunt than anything else is because just dropping people off without any assistance or notification that they are arriving means state and local governments have to do emergency support out of the blue without having a chance to gather resources to deal with an influx of people.  Texas actually get federal aid money to deal with Asylum seekers and it would be absolutely great if they want to ship Asylum seekers to other states, that money should also go as well.

If they really want to not appear as a political stunt would be to actually have notified state and city governments of their intentions including how many people are coming and where so that each state and city could prepare to receive those asylum seekers and assist them with their needs.  Instead, they went the easy route which is to deceive people into believing there is aid ready when they did nothing to prepare such a situation, dump the people in the city then left them to fend for themselves, knowing this will make the Trump faithful happy but did it really make Republicans believe this stunt owned the libs.  The GOP has a strong Christian base and while this might appeal to the more nationalistic Christians, it's very much isn't hitting home to traditional Christians.

The thing is you already have the Trump base, does this move actually get you independents and traditional Christians, I guess we will find out.

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iron_megalith said:
EpicRandy said:

My god what a crappy video, this guy is a wanna be Tucker Carlson I suppose.  Seriously this dude try to score point using already debunked claim like this one which was debunked 7 month ago.

Imagine using Politifact but ok.

Imagine using passive aggressive response when you can't dispute facts but ok.

the article is using facts you can independently verify and site their sources, As such it could even have been posted on MSNBC or Fox News site it doesn't matter, the fact speak for themselves.



iron_megalith said:

Took care of immigrants then sent them away within 52 hours.

LMAO. Ok.

* Immigrants are in Texas applying for asylum.

* DeSantis' office bribes them with McDonald's gift cards and the promise of work, food, shelter if they get on these flights.

* They fly to Martha's Vineyard and are unceremoniously dropped off with no food, no shelter and no notification to any local officials. In fact, the only early notification was a Fox News crew to be there to film to proceedings. 

* Immigrants are immediately treated by locals with as much services the island is equipped to handle.

* Immigrants are then transported to Cape Cod which has access to food, shelter and emergency services.

To sum up.

DeSantis left them there to die. He didn't care for their health or safety. The people of Martha's Vineyard did.  This event has clearly delineated who actually gives a damn and who doesn't.

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To the privileged, equality feels like oppression.