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KLAMarine on 24 February 2022
Machiavellian said:
KLAMarine said:

So we're in agreement: one word can change the meaning?

Machiavellian said:

Lol, so out of that video, all you came away with is that Tucker used morally superior and John stated superior even thought if you actually spent any moment reading what CRT is, you would understand Tucker definition is totally incorrect no matter the choice of words which even he stated he doesn't know.  Why would anyone get their info from someone who actually does not know about the subject they are talking about.

Don't ask me, I don't watch Tucker or Oliver.

Do not ask you what?? It would have been better if you actually had something that was actually interesting to state concerning the video or on CRT and the topic.  Instead you made some nick pick about basically nothing.  If the only thing that actually get your interest is the difference between morally superior and superior instead of the actual topic, why even bother.  I think we can all be in agreement that no matter what word Tucker used he was wrong.  Once a person is wrong on a subject, nick picking specific words seems a waste of time.

I think you meant nitpick, not nick pick.

And I don't think it's nothing: it's important to accurately portray someone else's stance lest you misrepresent them.



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KLAMarine on 24 February 2022
the-pi-guy said:
KLAMarine said:

I try to adhere to a policy of NEVER deviating from what someone else said when making reference to what someone else said. In this case, Oliver is in violation of that principle.

the-pi-guy said:

And apparently missing 1 word, that doesn't change the actual meaning of the sentence is in violation of your policy of trying to not deviate from what someone else said.  

Sorry he's in violation of your principle.  

My personal principle is that it doesn't matter how you word something as you long as you aren't misconstruing the meaning. Sometimes you have to reword something, because people don't understand something the same way.

Besides that again, he missed one word, that did not change the meaning of the sentence.

KLAMarine said:

So we're in agreement: one word can change the meaning?

Yet here you are misconstruing my post.

Sure 1 word can change the meaning. It doesn't meaningfully change in this case.

And again, he showed the actual quote, he referred back to it, not quoting it word for word, just like you basically did here.

I just want Oliver to stay on his toes. I assume he has a well-funded writing staff. I'd like to think those writers can keep close attention to these details?



Machiavellian on 24 February 2022
KLAMarine said:
Machiavellian said:

Do not ask you what?? It would have been better if you actually had something that was actually interesting to state concerning the video or on CRT and the topic.  Instead you made some nick pick about basically nothing.  If the only thing that actually get your interest is the difference between morally superior and superior instead of the actual topic, why even bother.  I think we can all be in agreement that no matter what word Tucker used he was wrong.  Once a person is wrong on a subject, nick picking specific words seems a waste of time.

I think you meant nitpick, not nick pick.

And I don't think it's nothing: it's important to accurately portray someone else's stance lest you misrepresent them.

So then tell me, what was Tucker saying when he stated that morally superior compared to being superior.  What is the base distinction between the 2 statements in the context of what he was talking about.  Context is the big question as it determines and solidify the stance he was trying to make.



KLAMarine on 24 February 2022
Machiavellian said:
KLAMarine said:

I think you meant nitpick, not nick pick.

And I don't think it's nothing: it's important to accurately portray someone else's stance lest you misrepresent them.

So then tell me, what was Tucker saying when he stated that morally superior compared to being superior.  What is the base distinction between the 2 statements in the context of what he was talking about.  Context is the big question as it determines and solidify the stance he was trying to make.

Sounds like he was accusing CRT of teaching some races are morally superior to others. My problem is Oliver alters Carlson's words ever-so-slightly but enough to change meaning. I have a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to these things...

You know, the quote function in this website preserves a post's words: I'd like to think that if it altered a word every time it was used, I doubt anyone on this site would tolerate that.



TallSilhouette on 24 March 2022

Trump is guilty of numerous felonies, resigned prosecutor says.

Credence to the speculation that Trump's investigations are finding him guilty as sin of numerous crimes, yet those in power refuse to actually prosecute. A sad but expected state of affairs. Hopefully one of these DA's grows a spine.



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Machiavellian on 24 March 2022

Yeah, I was reading that story of their resignation letter. The DA in NY seems like he wants to go for the fraud big case but that on was always hard to win. Oh well, they do not call him Teflon Don for nothing.



TallSilhouette on 31 March 2022

The most watched cable news host craps out another ridiculous brain rot conspiracy theory, but more importantly John Iadarola succinctly sums up the current state of American political media:



forest-spirit on 01 April 2022

I believe Tucker Carlson in his youth really loved to write fairy tales instead of doing real men's work. But then his daddy found out, dragged him out to the shed and gave him a nasty beating for being such a pansy. And so he switched career path, but he has always regretted not standing up for himself, and the pain he has felt for not getting to do what he actually wanted has grown to the point where he can no longer control it. As a result he has become completely unhinged.

If you've ever wondered why he has that look on his face of someone who has suffered from constipation for ten years straight, it's because he's clenching his fist so hard, thinking about how much he hates his dad and fighting against the urge to start crying.

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sundin13 on 10 April 2022
coolbeans said:
TallSilhouette said:

John finally tackles CRT. Long overdue and absolutely insane how out of control the 'issue' has become.

I'm surprised at how dogshit this video is.  Even the average critic against alleged CRT hyperbole at least fills the bingo card of "it's not taught in schools/that's not actually CRT/some of CRT's policies sound based actually and should be in schools" and so on.  This is closer to just feeding the trough in lieu of making a meaningful argument.

[EDIT: Older video, but still wanted to chime in.]

I mean, all those things are true, so I'm not really sure what your complaint is here.



sundin13 on 10 April 2022
coolbeans said:
sundin13 said:

I mean, all those things are true, so I'm not really sure what your complaint is here.

Did the "feeding the trough in lieu of making a meaningful argument" part not seem clear enough?  Or the part where it doesn't even rank up with the usual boring detractors?

I mean, no, it isn't particularly clear. Could you perhaps elaborate a bit?