The answer is that we're moving on now. I just had to say something to make sure that happened.

Pretty sure I was talking exclusively about the US and their human hating party and not right wing politics in general. I know they actually do not mean the harm they are causing and even think what they are doing is good, but that doesn't change that they're deliberately neglecting people. People they have sworn to speak for.

Also that last statement is irrelevant as long as the US doesn't have a democracy. So until they establish one, you can safely stop using that phrase.

Here's sort of how I'm foreseeing 2024 shaping up as of this moment:

1) The Democrats will likely nominate Kamala Harris since Biden has suggested he'll only serve one term and being as she's the current vice president.

2) Donald Trump will absolutely run again, almost certainly as a Republican. Nothing can stop this. Not even if he were in prison at the time could he be stopped from going through with another presidential run. It's inevitable, so get ready to start seeing him running again in another two years.

3) Trump could be renominated. Or maybe not, as there really is now a vocal minority of Republicans opposed to Trumpism and further political campaigns by Donald Trump. Trump's support in the Republican Party may still be high, but it's worth pointing out that whereas he got the votes of 94% of them in November, recent surveys suggest that only about 60% of them want him to remain involved in GOP politics. That's a fairly steep drop-off in a short period of time. I think it's possible for someone else to get the Republican nomination in 2024 even with Trump on the ballot.

4) If Trump doesn't get renominated by the Republican Party in 2024, he'll absolutely continue running anyway either as an independent or as a third-party candidate because, as we have already plainly seen in quite painful ways, his ego is entirely too monumental to accept defeat and/or act rationally in response thereto. Either way, he won't be president again.

5) Kamala Harris might win or lose, but she can only lose if the Republicans stay unified in their presidential vote, and realistically only if the Republicans specifically rally around a more traditional Reaganist type of nominee; the type of Republican who can get middle class, suburban support, not just the backing of rural America. Much will depend on just how effective a president Joe Biden turns out to be in the interim and on exactly who the Republicans nominate and whether they rally around their nominee.

Trumps defense team abandons him.

Just send this guy to Iran already, he is wanted there on assassination charges and he should absolutely be punished for those.

Exactly what I'm expecting also. Trump will run for El Presidente unless he's physically unable to.

I didn't know Biden stated that he might only serve one term. Do you maybe have a source for that that you could show me?

Well here's the full picture of the situation. The most telling part of this to me that Biden describes himself as a "transitional candidate" to a new generation of elected leaders and also says that it's a "legitimate question to ask anybody over 70 years old whether or not they’re fit and whether they’re ready. But I just, [the] only thing I can say to the American people, it’s a legitimate question to ask anybody. Watch me." And while Biden left open the possibility of running again in 2024 during the election...ya know, like the first article points out, saying anything else when you're running for a first term when point-blank asked would harm your campaign, so I mean what else could he say? I compare his simple, one-word answer to the latter query to his more detailed comments on the former and also recall that he'd be 82 years old in 2024, which is longer than most Americans live, and the picture, to my way of thinking, juuuuuust adds to a decision that one term is enough, realistically.

Of course we wouldn't hear confirmation until after the midterm elections next year for obvious reasons.

Thanks, much appreciated.

Any idea who would be a good pick for Kamala as her VP if it came to this?

Having Kamala run would be quite interesting. We'd get the final answer of if there are more woke millennials or racist misogynists in the country.

How enlightened centrists compare both parties. (colors unrelated)



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That is more or less a failure of education and media... Both of which ironically drive political agendas often.

For example, the empirical evidence on Climate Change is very resounding at this point and cannot really be refuted... And that is often reflected in school curriculums, which has resulted in the younger demographics supporting Climate Change where older populations which never had that educational support on the topic tend to be against.

In terms of Media, here the Murdoch empire actually has a direct line to the prime minister as that right-wing outlet has allot of power, more than it should in this country.

Even then, they are still entitled to make that choice, even if it results in self harm, it's what makes us Adults, it's what freedom is all about.
It's why the emergency services exist, because shit does go wrong.

Take it into private. - Whether I agree or not is no ones business and not part of the topic.

Yes my quote was out of context, because I disagreed with it's inherent principle, you are a smart guy, thought you would have picked up on that.