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JRPGfan said:
JRPGfan said:

President Donald Trump Postmaster Downgrading Of Political Mail Draws Scorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjsRVVKNTp8



Apparently they can now throw away/recycle your mail-in-votes.
"its not just a threat, to do this, postal workers are now saying, thats whats happening" - Rachel Maddow

That is messed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEC0-73Dd78


Extra Ballot Drop Boxes Rejected By Republican Ohio Sec. Of State-

There is no law, behinde this, he just decided its not allowed.

The question is why?

Well if you mess up mail-in-voteing, and you mess up the ease of dropping it off, you force them to go in person to vote, which benefits republicans.
(more of them, have time to go vote, wait in long ques, not worried about covid19 to the extent of maybe some democrats ect)

This should not be allowed, its like cheating to win a election.

Republicans: "The election is rigged. We know because we did the rigging ourselves."

Republicans are rigging for decades already so they can stay relevant. If they weren't doing all those disinformation campaigns, voter profiling targeted to get latinx and black people not to vote and stuff like that, they would already be at a spot where they wouldn't have any chance of being elected anymore. It's just getting more visible as they exhausted the easy ways, now they have to go increasingly shady and borderline illegal to stay relevant.



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Snoopy said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Pence didn't kill Trumps chances, so I'd say Biden is fine.

Pence is a safe bet that didn't drag Trump down, unlike Harris who has a controversial track record.

Still not half as controversial as Trump.  Biden will be fine.

And's let's be real: You would have said the same thing no matter who he picked.

Last edited by Paperboy_J - on 13 August 2020

Bandorr said:
2020 Newsweek is triyng to bring back Birthism.
In an article written by that same person that said in 2016 "Senator Ted Cruz Is Eligible to Be President".
He is question if a black lady born in the US is president, but has no problem defending a white guy born in Canada.

Shockingly they are BOTH legal - the difference? They aren't both white men.

And then he went on to question if she even was eligible to become a US senator...

Link to the article (in case anyone else feels like reading it): https://www.newsweek.com/some-questions-kamala-harris-about-eligibility-opinion-1524483

Bonus link to an Editor's Note defending the article: https://www.newsweek.com/editors-note-eastmans-newsweek-column-has-nothing-do-racist-birtherism-1524800



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Snoopy said:

Guess you haven't been on social media lately. Just look at the youtube videos like to dislike ratio for VP Harris. Also, trust me when I say that the silent majority is a very real thing and they see BLM and Antifa ruining this country single handley and liberals are backing them.

The only thing BLM and Antifa had been ruining so far is America's race to the bottom by fucking itself up.

Trump and his cronies has turned the US from a feared and respected Superpower into the laughingstock of the world which no one can take seriously anymore.

His handling of the coronavirus had been so shitty that the entire world can only shake their heads collectively anymore. The US have more cases and more dead than any other country, and even if ranked by population, the US are racing up those charts towards the top spot. It laid bare to anybody with half a brain that the US healthcare system ain't healthy, doesn't care about it's sick and the only system in place is legalized extortion which only the super-rich can truly afford. It laid bare how tying your healthcare to your job is a terrible idea if millions are getting fired due to a health crisis.

And that's just one of the issues which he handled so badly he showed to everyone what a buffoon the current POTUS is. Even his own party is revolted and revolting against him.

That doesn't make any sense. In a time of a virulent crisis, to non stop protest, riot, loot and defund law enforcement effectively diminishing public safety and causing a surge in violent crime doesn't sound very productive.

The US Health Care system, isn't that still Obamacare?



Hunting Season is done...

I find it funny that the media and the democrats are now showing that there could be a problem with mass mail-in voting when they were so adamant in saying that there weren't any significant evidences that such incidents could affect the upcoming election. I mean twitter said so by slapping a CNN article to the orange man's tweet. They must be right!

Now they do a complete 180. They just can't make up their damn minds don't they? I guess that's what happened when they're struggling to push that universal mail-in ballot bullshit into the Coronavirus relief bill. :P

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https://i.imgur.com/r2wANzT.mp4

There a way to embed mp4's?



JRPGfan said:
JRPGfan said:

President Donald Trump Postmaster Downgrading Of Political Mail Draws Scorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjsRVVKNTp8



Apparently they can now throw away/recycle your mail-in-votes.
"its not just a threat, to do this, postal workers are now saying, thats whats happening" - Rachel Maddow

That is messed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEC0-73Dd78


Extra Ballot Drop Boxes Rejected By Republican Ohio Sec. Of State-

There is no law, behinde this, he just decided its not allowed.

The question is why?

Well if you mess up mail-in-voteing, and you mess up the ease of dropping it off, you force them to go in person to vote, which benefits republicans.
(more of them, have time to go vote, wait in long ques, not worried about covid19 to the extent of maybe some democrats ect)


This should not be allowed, its like cheating to win a election.

Republicans: "The election is rigged. We know because we did the rigging ourselves."

iron_megalith said:

I find it funny that the media and the democrats are now showing that there could be a problem with mass mail-in voting when they were so adamant in saying that there weren't any significant evidences that such incidents could affect the upcoming election. I mean twitter said so by slapping a CNN article to the orange man's tweet. They must be right!

Now they do a complete 180. They just can't make up their damn minds don't they? I guess that's what happened when they're struggling to push that universal mail-in ballot bullshit into the Coronavirus relief bill. :P

Normally there wouldn't be a issue with it.
Mail-in voteing has long worked well in the US.
Its only lately that issues are starting to pop up with it.

Why? well....

Donald Trump put in place a Postmaster, thats allowed to throw out mail-in votes.
Theres mail workers saying its happending.  He depriotised them too, so there will be less that get where they should.
Basically higher chances of your mail in vote being tossed out & recyled.

Also apparently against any law, a Republican of Ohio, Sec. Of State.... has decided there will be no drop-boxes, where you can drop off your vote this comeing election. You want to vote, you need to show up and do it in person. Apparently hes useing powers hes not supposed to have, and just proclaims something has happending, even if potentially unlawfull.




Zoombael said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

The only thing BLM and Antifa had been ruining so far is America's race to the bottom by fucking itself up.

Trump and his cronies has turned the US from a feared and respected Superpower into the laughingstock of the world which no one can take seriously anymore.

His handling of the coronavirus had been so shitty that the entire world can only shake their heads collectively anymore. The US have more cases and more dead than any other country, and even if ranked by population, the US are racing up those charts towards the top spot. It laid bare to anybody with half a brain that the US healthcare system ain't healthy, doesn't care about it's sick and the only system in place is legalized extortion which only the super-rich can truly afford. It laid bare how tying your healthcare to your job is a terrible idea if millions are getting fired due to a health crisis.

And that's just one of the issues which he handled so badly he showed to everyone what a buffoon the current POTUS is. Even his own party is revolted and revolting against him.

That doesn't make any sense. In a time of a virulent crisis, to non stop protest, riot, loot and defund law enforcement effectively diminishing public safety and causing a surge in violent crime doesn't sound very productive.

The US Health Care system, isn't that still Obamacare?

All that the Republicans did for the economy is give more and more money to the rich, the military and to Law enforcement, neither of whom did need any more money.

All 3 already have more then enough, but Republicans still believe (at least some of them) to trickle-down economics, so that giving them more would result into the population at large would get more in the end, too. However, it has been proven that more money for the rich doesn't mean more money for the population at large later on because they don't invest that money into new companies or their own companies, but, if they invest that money anywhere at all, then only into the stock market, and there mostly for stock buybacks. That's the reason why the stock market is still growing despite the country's economy dropping lower and lower.

They take from the poor and give it to the rich, and then blame the other party's supporters for why people are poor. But people have visibly wisened up and are fighting back against it, hence what I meant with ruining their race to the bottom to fuck everybody up.

@bolded: That is demonstrably false. I can't remember which city it was, but when their Police went on strike (they still were fully operational and took all the calls, just not patrolling outside), they thought the rising crime rate would force the mayor to increase funding for them. It backfired spectacularly, because instead of rising, crime rate actually dropped significantly during that period. That's the effect of the trigger-happy militarized police on the population, it makes everybody feel unsafe around them, but while they were gone, people felt safer and didn't feel the need to call them nearly as often.

Also, you just missed the reason behind the defunding. Police gets the lion's share of all the funding, leaving just crumbles behind for social programs. But were those social programs more developed, then there would just as demonstrably be less crime. Just look at Europe, less than half the crime rate with much less police (which is often even unarmed) but much bigger social programs, for instance.

About the healthcare, Obamacare was a step forward, but most don't fall under that mantle, having to get their healthcare from private companies with sky-high premiums or getting it through their employer instead. And what happens in hospitals is just legalized extortion. Just look how people from other countries react to the prices in the US:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kll-yYQwmuM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mhtybhjL0o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-x6E8LbYmw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03RbIZK8iko



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Zoombael said:

That doesn't make any sense. In a time of a virulent crisis, to non stop protest, riot, loot and defund law enforcement effectively diminishing public safety and causing a surge in violent crime doesn't sound very productive.

The US Health Care system, isn't that still Obamacare?

@bolded: That is demonstrably false. I can't remember which city it was, but when their Police went on strike (they still were fully operational and took all the calls, just not patrolling outside), they thought the rising crime rate would force the mayor to increase funding for them. It backfired spectacularly, because instead of rising, crime rate actually dropped significantly during that period. That's the effect of the trigger-happy militarized police on the population, it makes everybody feel unsafe around them, but while they were gone, people felt safer and didn't feel the need to call them nearly as often.

Eh, if you are talking about New York City police strike some years ago, you're jumping to conclusions. Arrests and crime rate dropped significantly for minor offences, public disorder and such and that should not be a surprise if it isn't enforced. Major crimes dropped only slightly. 

There were reports that in some neighborhoods despite people not seeing more crime, they felt unsafe with less police. Not surprising, there's surveys and gallups that indicate most people are happy about police precence. Minority communities too. It might be more reasonable to assume that if police are on a strike, people don't bother calling 911 for a drunk guy pissing on a corner.

If you look at a longer time-frame, US crime rate has decreased while police funding has increased. Should we jump to conclusions? Nah, there's of course more things to consider there, but we shouldn't read too much into police strike either. Not to mention police strike and defunding aren't the same thing.

After BLM protests started, major crime has increased significantly though and I think it's alarming. Got to agree with Zoombael here.



KiigelHeart said:

After BLM protests started, major crime has increased significantly though and I think it's alarming. Got to agree with Zoombael here.

As this has largely coincided with the pandemic, it is real tough to attribute this trend to anything BLM related.

However, even if it were BLM related, that wouldn't be a vindication of the police. A loss of trust in police due to the police murdering people is fundamentally the fault of the police who are killing people, not the fault of those who are bringing attention to those injustices.