You really have to make a jump to see anything within my post that says your opinion is less than mine.  I never made any statement or alluded to that your opinion is less than mind but instead just stated my opinion.  The reason I stated as a husband and father is because my perspective is also measured by my experience.  Meaning I am not coming into my opinion from out of the blue but instead from experiences I have had during my life.  From 3 friends who were wrongly accused to having a daughter which I have had this conversation with and a wife who I value her perspective and viewpoint.  I neither allude that my opinion is right but instead state it's how I view the situation and my stance.

As to your last point, you only seem to care about the victim without considering the defendant.  It doesn't matter if the situation is hard because no person should go to jail if not guilty.  Would your perspective be the same if you were wrongly accused and find yourself in jail because of stats.  No matter how you paint this, there are 2 parties within this situation and both not one have a right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. The only thing that stops a person from coming forward is fear and just like anything in this world expecting the playing field to be totally fair isn't going to happen.  To get those people off the street and in prison, the person must conqueror their fear or whatever is holding them back and come forward not wait until 27 years later where its hard to determine if anything happen.

Is Reade facing issues with Biden supporters, you bet.  Is Biden facing people automatically believing he raped her without anything to go on, you bet.  Its messy but then again it took Reade 27 years to come forward and only when Biden is going for president when she had plenty of time to do it.  As I stated, its a lesson for all women to not sit on something like this and come out decades later hoping to be believed without taking the person to court.  The responsibility was on Reade 27 years ago and putting so much time between coming out muddies the whole situation.

OMFGGGG this is why I just wanted to drop the conversation with you. Because you just don't get what I'm saying. You're literally mansplaining to me about situations most women like ME know a lot more about, the power dynamics and the complications that come into play. The reason I said that your opinion is no more valid than mine is because it does not matter that your SO happens to be a women and that your offspring happens to be a girl. Unless you PERSONALLY have experience being a women in this situation that bit of info you just gave me is useless and unnecessary to the convo at hand. You really don't have any personal experience with this topic, either by actually being a rape victim or a falsely accused abuser.

Reade came forward to multiple people THE WEEK it happened. It is so far removed from reality to blame all women and completely put the onus on them to come out and press charges in a timely manner to satiate men like yourself. It completely ignores the trauma they have to deal with and all the complications they have to go through. That last paragraph just revealed that you don't actually believe women at the best of times or even care enough to realize that it's an incredibly complex situation for those that have been abused. It's completely patronizing and borderline sexist; that's not the hill you'd want to die on.

Instead of doing mental gymnastics and convincing yourself that you're "one of the good ones" because you have a wife and daughter, and that gives you the right and experience to patronize all women. You can just say you don't believe victims (in this case Tara) and move on. That would've been a more respectable stance.

I just don't understand the Joe Biden and Kavanaugh sexual assault stuff. Yes, they have accusers, but there's no proof that they did any of it. And without proof isn't someone innocent until proven guilty? Or can any random person now come forward and ruin a man's political career with little more than an accusation of sexual assault? How would you even defend yourself politically from such an accusation. You'd have to have some sort of video proof from 20-30 years ago that you weren't at the place/time that it happened.

I think the left in general has painted itself into a corner with this one. They pushed the accusation = guilty narrative with Kavanaugh so hard, that now they have zero defense for Biden. If only Dems in general had pushed for Garland's confirmation as hard as they pushed for Kavanaugh not being confirmed, they wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. Obama should have refused to fund the government until Garland at least got an up/down vote from the full Senate.

P.S.

For those that don't know me, I think Biden is just as bad a Dem as Hillary, and think Kavanaugh is nothing more than a Kangaroo Judge.

Considering that Biden played a big role in getting Clarence Thomas into the Supreme Court, one of the most conservative judges we have next to Justice Scalia, by effectively torpedoing Anita Hills' credible rape accusations against Thomas. So the Supreme Court argument doesn't convince me because I don't trust Biden's judgement, he's proven he can't be trusted. He already showed us who he is by essentially helping appoint a conservative judge, what makes you think he won't do it again?

The only way Biden will have my vote is if he fully supports M4A and bolder climate action.

Yea I was more thinking about trump having 10 or more allegation to Bidens one.  You are right to point out democrats jumped on trump and others with believe women first no matter what.  Heck they even did it to their own members like Al Frankan.  He was forced out real quick and there wasn't even investigation into to it before they told him to resign.  I forget what allegation was but I don't even think it was that serious or even happened.

Edit - just looked back into it.  She says he forced kiss her hard supposedly acting a scene and then groped her on plane back.  So kiss is almost non issue to me but the groping would be a problem.

Yea I have doubts about her story myself if she waited this long.  One would think this would have come up sooner or at least when he was vice president.  He does do some akward touching a lot but not sure if he pinned her against wall and put a finger inside her.  She has a few people that collaborate her story.  I suppose we may never know considering it is one person word against another.

1. You can't say that with 100% certainty considering Biden's past. He may appoint a neoliberal but we don't need anymore neoliberals involved in govt. We need other voices, ideas and interpretations, specifically leftist ones.

2. That's arguable but I'll concede that point, which makes Biden's role that much more awful. They're both conservative.

3. Omg whoops yeah you're completely right, sorry. I had just gotten through a speil on rape accusations so my mind was still on that. But yes, of course, it was sexual harrassment. To Biden's credit though he did admit he handled it awfully by his dismissiveness of Hill.

Biden has proven time and time again that he doesn't do well in positions of power specifically when it comes to the best interests of those under him and minorities. Unless he adopts a more leftist platform and brings in leftist people into his campaign and administration he is going to have a hard time garnering support. Your whole thing can't be just "I'm against Trump" well yeah most of Americans don't like Trump but what do you have to offer the millions of disillusioned and disenfranchised people so they vote for you?

"He who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much."

There is the issue of University records at the time that have recently been sealed until Biden is out of office, this is a red flag, Biden has refused when asked even in principle to allow a search for any mention of T. Reade

Yeah, except Trump's Kangaroo Supreme court pretty much gutted the 1935 National Labor Relations Act, and returned us to the time of Yellow Dog Contracts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Systems_Corp._v._Lewis

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555203655/a-yellow-dog-contract-and-other-jabs-during-supreme-court-opening-arguments


Nevermind what the NLRA says clear as day about people being able to take collective action against  their employers. The shitty conservative judges jumped through hoops to make the law say exactly what they believed it should say.

And as far as the right to abortion being somehow illogically ruled on...

1. The government has no right to unreasonably seize or search your property.

2. Your body is your property.

3. The government telling you that you must carry your fetus to term is an unreasonable seizure of property.

4. Therefore anti-abortion laws are unconstitutional.

It flows freely and logically from the Fourth Amendment. It's the same reason why the government can't force you to turn your house into a homeless shelter. Or why the government can't force your body to be used as a guinea pig in a lab somewhere. Whether or not the founding fathers intended for this logical conclusion is irrelevant. Lots of laws have been written, and then used fairly, in a court of law to force a conclusion that the original writers of the law never would have seen coming. If some racist country passes a law stating that anybody of African decent should be enslaved, and then a cheeky lawyer argues that all of humanity is technically descended from Africans, the conclusion still holds. The writers of that particular law may not like being enslaved alongside their victims, but what they intended for the law to accomplish, and what is actually accomplishes are two different things.

Probably too political to post in the LGBT thread unfortunately.

Both vids tie together nicely, though indirectly.

Gotta say that Rubin is one brave individual. Coming out in more ways than one is something that you can't help but have respect for. You can only hope that people like him can find equal acceptance some day.