IcaroRibeiro said: I'm sorry for the stereotyping, please forgive me if I'm been offensive but...
I just find amusing this thread has so many more pages than the republican one. I my mind most of the american gamers were actually Republicans |
Mmm not sure where you get that notion..
I will concede that if anything, gamers often tend to have more of a libertarian bent and that, least in America, libertarianism is more associated with the right because of much of its fascination with the free market, 2nd amendment, and limited government power. Still, this seems to be changing, and there seem to be more like myself that have a slew of many left wing views along with libertarian ones. The libertarian association with gamers somewhat makes sense as there's that desire of gamers for artistic/creative freedom and the individual power/freedom you get while playing games which is comparable.
Additionally with regards to the popularity of the threads - there's the major factor that there's a heated primary going on right now, where the waters on the Republican side are pretty stagnant at this point vs the turbulent waters of the Democrat field. Trump's pretty much usurped the whole thing, and like 90% of the Repubs are behind him so there's really not much to discuss, or at least view heated debates/conflict.
Raven said:
DarthMetalliCube said:
And don't get me wrong I don't hate all things Democrat. In fact I voted for John Kerry in '04 and Obama in '08. But I just hate what they've largely become in the last 5-10 years.
As I've said - if these guys can just let Tulsi into this one debate and speak for maybe more than 3 minutes total (half of which she's forced to respond to bogus smears) and actually talk policy.. and she's STILL hugely unpopular, I'll totally concede that she's done and need to leave. But I really just feel she needs that massive exposure on a major level. I point to the huge lift for Perrot in '92 as evidence that this could be significant. I mean the guy was a non-entity and a big TV special propelled him to 19% of the popular vote in the '92 general!
Sure, TV doesn't have the same influence and monopoly on exposure it once did and Podcasts/Youtube is great - but it's mostly a younger audience watching them, many of whom are either already in for Bernie or sitting it out anyway.
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Which bogus smears? That she has and still continues to funnel money to people involved with an extremist Hare Krishna offshoot cult? That she was one of the earlier politicians making liberal use of the term "radical Islam" and criticized Obama for 'not' using it even though it's pretty much become a buzzword for those on the far-right trying to enact laws that discriminate against Muslims? Her alignment with PM Modi of India? Her willingness to dub herself a "hawk" on Islamic terrorism while simultaneously playing the pacifist with Assad of Syria who has been slaughtering his own people for years?
I'd say she has a lot to rightfully answer for.
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My dude, there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying "radical Islam" when it refers to an offshoot (granted an extremely minor one) of a religion slaughtering people, performing injustices and human rights abuses. As long as that distinction is made. The same way I have no problem referring to "radical Christians" that kill doctors at abortion clinics or burning crossing and wearing white hoods. If you're performing radical, deadly acts in the name of your religion, you are a radical/extremist group of that religion. Why in the shit is that controversial? If people can't distinguish between the benign/moderate element and the dangerous fringe extreme and discriminate because of it, that's their problem..
Hare Krishna money funneling? The hell? That's an extremely odd accusation that I've never heard before, and I've absorbed a ton of information over the years, so I'm wondering where the hell you're getting this one. Got some evidence/links?
She's not "aligned" with PM Modi simply for meeting him and being diplomatic for god's sake. Obama did the same thing. But ya know.. he's of the establishment so he gets a free pass, and not every little thing is completely under the microscope and criticized like with Tulsi. And furthermore when it comes to Modi I can't help but feel there's a tinge of Hinduphobia here (ironically). Like, somehow I doubt a white Christian democrat doing the same with Modi would have been branded a "Modi supporter/adjacent/enabler" or whatever the shit label people pull out of their asses.
It's the same with Assad. Just because she doesn't support overthrowing a dictator and going in and installing our own like we've done time and time again, doesn't mean she enables or supports him in any way. She's repeatedly condemned him. What the hell is she supposed to do at this point, fly to Syria and throw goddamn eggs at his house?
Many Authoritarian leftists seem to have lost the plot when it comes to foreign policy, and that diplomacy and anti-intervention BY NO MEANS = "support." The same freaking way those liberals who were against the Iraq war (which most were, how times have changed..) were not "supporting Saddam Husein." Her argument with Assad is that going to war with him and/or overthrowing him will inevitably only lead to MORE chaos and instability, and thus more deaths. Again, look to Iraq and Afghanistan as an example.
Those interested in our foreign policy here in the US operates and the corruption behind it should watch this doc. While it's not entirely related to this subject, it sheds some light on what Tulsi is talking about when she so often refers to "regime change wars" and why diplomacy should be emphasized over war or overthrowing these regimes. Shows how much of this military intervention is just part of a larger scheme of clandestine imperialism.
Last edited by DarthMetalliCube - on 08 March 2020