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tsogud on 25 December 2019
Cerebralbore101 said:
tsogud said:

Denying the reality of the hardships people face because of a system designed to use people for profit, without concern for their well-being, would mean you're the one that's not logical or morally disciplined. You're putting the onus on the oppressed rather than the oppressor. It's wrong on so many levels. There's hard truths but there's also compassionate truths too.

You are the one in denial here. The fact of the matter is that there are many ways to get out of poverty without signing yourself up as a contract killer for Uncle Sam. 

And even if there weren't that still doesn't justify what is essentially killing others for a paycheck. 

If I put a gun in your hand and offer you $5,000 to kill a complete stranger that I've tied up in front of you, and you do it, are you a bad person? What if you're in poverty and could really use the money? Do you think that would justify it or not? I seriously want your opinion on this. 

You really don't know how the military works and the many non-combatant roles there are do you? I only ask that because if you did you'd know those are ridiculous questions to ask.

Killing is wrong. Signing up in the hopes to receive a better life when you have no other options doesn't make you a "killer."

I don't agree with war or anything like that but I can fully understand the reason someone in poverty with no prospects might look into signing up purely for the benefits, especially when they know they won't have to kill people.

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Cerebralbore101 on 26 December 2019
SpokenTruth said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

You are the one in denial here. The fact of the matter is that there are many ways to get out of poverty without signing yourself up as a contract killer for Uncle Sam. 

And even if there weren't that still doesn't justify what is essentially killing others for a paycheck. 

If I put a gun in your hand and offer you $5,000 to kill a complete stranger that I've tied up in front of you, and you do it, are you a bad person? What if you're in poverty and could really use the money? Do you think that would justify it or not? I seriously want your opinion on this.

Only about 5% of military personnel are armed combat infantry. And fewer than that see live combat. We have 1.3 million active duty service members yet only a few thousand deployed in combat zones.  That's less than 1% in an active combat zone.  And an fraction smaller actively engaging enemy combatants.

I took the time to doublecheck this. You are right. My initial hypothetical question doesn't work then. The odds of actually having to kill someone after joining the Armed Forces are something like 1 in 300 or greater. If someone were offered $30,000 to pull a death lottery with 1/300 odds of having to kill somebody, I don't think I could blame them. 



haxxiy on 30 December 2019

Are you libs ready to face the master race in the civil war, should the god emperor lose next year?

At least that's what some trailer trash believe it'll happen without Trump. Another interesting article in this not-so-noble savage roaming the american countryside nowadays:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/us/politics/trump-2020-trumpstock.html



 

 

 

 

 

Bofferbrauer2 on 30 December 2019
SpokenTruth said:
Mike Bloomberg's campaign may have just stepped in it. His campaign contracted a company out of New Jersey for campaign phone work. But it turns out that company uses prisoners in Oklahoma as a call center. Strangely as hell, this is not illegal. But there you go...billionaire Bloomberg exploiting prion labor to operate the call center functions of his campaign.

Then again, the scandal bar is now pretty damn high so maybe it won't affect him at all.

Prion Labor

Either way, it's a disease.

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Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

Bofferbrauer2 on 30 December 2019
haxxiy said:

Are you libs ready to face the master race in the civil war, should the god emperor lose next year?

At least that's what some trailer trash believe it'll happen without Trump. Another interesting article in this not-so-noble savage roaming the american countryside nowadays:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/us/politics/trump-2020-trumpstock.html

Sorry, but just this quote:

“There is no difference between the democratic socialists and the National Socialists,” said Evan Sayet, a conservative writer who spoke at the event, referencing Nazi Germany. Democrats, he said, “are the heirs to Adolf Hitler.”



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Moren on 30 December 2019

I'm reordering my tier - I'm removing Harris and Booker as well.

Top Tier (People I genuinely like):
1. Klobu
2. Biden
3. Warren

Mid Tier:
4. Pete (It's been a harsh month)
5. Bloomberg
6. Steyer (hopefully I can remove him soon)

Low Tier:
7. Yang
8. Bernie

All of them are preferable to Trump.

Also, although Pete is not going to win the primary - I can guarantee without a shadow of a doubt he would lose a general election.

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HylianSwordsman on 30 December 2019
Bofferbrauer2 said:
haxxiy said:

Are you libs ready to face the master race in the civil war, should the god emperor lose next year?

At least that's what some trailer trash believe it'll happen without Trump. Another interesting article in this not-so-noble savage roaming the american countryside nowadays:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/us/politics/trump-2020-trumpstock.html

Sorry, but just this quote:

“There is no difference between the democratic socialists and the National Socialists,” said Evan Sayet, a conservative writer who spoke at the event, referencing Nazi Germany. Democrats, he said, “are the heirs to Adolf Hitler.”

Karkat! Are you Homestuck trash like me, Bofferbrauer?



Bofferbrauer2 on 30 December 2019
HylianSwordsman said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Sorry, but just this quote:

“There is no difference between the democratic socialists and the National Socialists,” said Evan Sayet, a conservative writer who spoke at the event, referencing Nazi Germany. Democrats, he said, “are the heirs to Adolf Hitler.”

Karkat! Are you Homestuck trash like me, Bofferbrauer?

Of course!

Though I never managed to read it all without forgetting some points along the way - it's just too damn long! Still wonder how Andrew Hussie could churn out so many pages at once during it's heyday. As a security agent on night shifts, I had plenty of time to read and fell upon it in 2011.

Also supported the Kickstarter campaign (love the song in the promotional video, btw) for the Videogame, though I found that one so far (only 1 act out of 4 came out yet) fairly underwhelming. At least I got some signed poster from Hussie from it...

Edit: Writing this gave me the mental image of Trump as Doc Scratch Lord English. Can't unsee it anymore!

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 30 December 2019

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The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

haxxiy on 30 December 2019
Bofferbrauer2 said:
haxxiy said:

Are you libs ready to face the master race in the civil war, should the god emperor lose next year?

At least that's what some trailer trash believe it'll happen without Trump. Another interesting article in this not-so-noble savage roaming the american countryside nowadays:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/us/politics/trump-2020-trumpstock.html

Sorry, but just this quote:

“There is no difference between the democratic socialists and the National Socialists,” said Evan Sayet, a conservative writer who spoke at the event, referencing Nazi Germany. Democrats, he said, “are the heirs to Adolf Hitler.”

People calling the Nazis socialists as we understand the word is peak cringe retarded right-wing propaganda, right up there with "taxes are theft". And I'm not sorry of all the adjectives in that sentence. I've heard that kind of idiocy being regurgitated back in Brazil as well, and yeah.



 

 

 

 

 

jason1637 on 30 December 2019

Yang sent a letter asking the DNC to has a commission for early state polling because there hasnt been and early state qualifying pool in the last 45 days. He even offered to give the DNC the funds for this polling but the DNC didnt take on the offer because they want to focus their resources to beat Trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dnc-shoots-down-andrew-yang-request-for-more-polling