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Forums - Sales Discussion - December NPD 2018 thread

CosmicSex said:
I still believe that the PS4 outsold the Xbox and I believe that it sold closer to the Switch than has been speculated so far. I do not believe that the switch sold more than PS4+Xbox combined. I think Benji has a pulse on sales but I don't think he has the entire picture. Also, if holiday sales were down at gamestop per Benji's post at 6.1%

This indicates that HW for December of 2018 may infact be less than hardware for December 2017. There is simply no way that the Switch could be past 2 million.
And if it did, and HW was around the same 4.5 million sales, there would be more sales coming from ps4 and xbox one combined. 3DS has tanked YoY.

Benji has access to sales data. What do you base your prediction on?



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Resetera appears to have crashed. Could this be the result of someone posting the numbers?



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In my opinion the N64 was not just the best console of the 5th gen but, to this day the best console ever created!

CosmicSex said:
I still believe that the PS4 outsold the Xbox and I believe that it sold closer to the Switch than has been speculated so far. I do not believe that the switch sold more than PS4+Xbox combined. I think Benji has a pulse on sales but I don't think he has the entire picture. Also, if holiday sales were down at gamestop per Benji's post at 6.1%

This indicates that HW for December of 2018 may infact be less than hardware for December 2017. There is simply no way that the Switch could be past 2 million.
And if it did, and HW was around the same 4.5 million sales, there would be more sales coming from ps4 and xbox one combined. 3DS has tanked YoY.

So you think PS4 will be up YoY, by a good chunk? Would you care to explain why, with no deals, that it would be up YoY?



peachbuggy said:
Resetera appears to have crashed. Could this be the result of someone posting the numbers?

That would be hilarious, I hope someone grabbed a screenshot if that did happen. 



Yes i cant Access resetera. Lets Hope that the Numbers are Out.



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I didn't manage to but hopefully someone did. Have been (im) patiently waiting for the results. It seems it may have crashed due to volume so there could be a meltdown coming either way!



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ANDY MURRAY:- GRAND SLAM WINNER!

In my opinion the N64 was not just the best console of the 5th gen but, to this day the best console ever created!

CosmicSex said:
I still believe that the PS4 outsold the Xbox and I believe that it sold closer to the Switch than has been speculated so far. I do not believe that the switch sold more than PS4+Xbox combined. I think Benji has a pulse on sales but I don't think he has the entire picture. Also, if holiday sales were down at gamestop per Benji's post at 6.1%

This indicates that HW for December of 2018 may infact be less than hardware for December 2017. There is simply no way that the Switch could be past 2 million.
And if it did, and HW was around the same 4.5 million sales, there would be more sales coming from ps4 and xbox one combined. 3DS has tanked YoY.

Benji always says this himself. He sees a big chunk of the market but not all of it.
But a lot of people don't get that. Some even call him NPD insider despite him being not afflicted with NPD at all.



MasonADC said:
CosmicSex said:
I still believe that the PS4 outsold the Xbox and I believe that it sold closer to the Switch than has been speculated so far. I do not believe that the switch sold more than PS4+Xbox combined. I think Benji has a pulse on sales but I don't think he has the entire picture. Also, if holiday sales were down at gamestop per Benji's post at 6.1%

This indicates that HW for December of 2018 may infact be less than hardware for December 2017. There is simply no way that the Switch could be past 2 million.
And if it did, and HW was around the same 4.5 million sales, there would be more sales coming from ps4 and xbox one combined. 3DS has tanked YoY.

So you think PS4 will be up YoY, by a good chunk? Would you care to explain why, with no deals, that it would be up YoY?

Hypothetically if the Switch didn't sell over 2 million and we have a 6% drop from 2017 when November Switch was up and we know the 3Ds is down then the left over pie from about 4 million means that that the Xbox and PS4 made up at least 2 million in sales.  So either the Xbox sold gangbusters or the PS4 was up YoY.  I would say it is probably 1 million.  This is all speculation.



CosmicSex said:
MasonADC said:

So you think PS4 will be up YoY, by a good chunk? Would you care to explain why, with no deals, that it would be up YoY?

Hypothetically if the Switch didn't sell over 2 million and we have a 6% drop from 2017 when November Switch was up and we know the 3Ds is down then the left over pie from about 4 million means that that the Xbox and PS4 made up at least 2 million in sales.  So either the Xbox sold gangbusters or the PS4 was up YoY.  I would say it is probably 1 million.  This is all speculation.

Or the Switch did sell over 2 million, so the chunk of pie left is smaller.



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ANIMAL CROSSING NEW LEAF FRIEND CODE:- 5129 1175 1029. MESSAGE ME.
ANDY MURRAY:- GRAND SLAM WINNER!

In my opinion the N64 was not just the best console of the 5th gen but, to this day the best console ever created!

Marth said:
CosmicSex said:
I still believe that the PS4 outsold the Xbox and I believe that it sold closer to the Switch than has been speculated so far. I do not believe that the switch sold more than PS4+Xbox combined. I think Benji has a pulse on sales but I don't think he has the entire picture. Also, if holiday sales were down at gamestop per Benji's post at 6.1%

This indicates that HW for December of 2018 may infact be less than hardware for December 2017. There is simply no way that the Switch could be past 2 million.
And if it did, and HW was around the same 4.5 million sales, there would be more sales coming from ps4 and xbox one combined. 3DS has tanked YoY.

Benji always says this himself. He sees a big chunk of the market but not all of it.
But a lot of people don't get that. Some even call him NPD insider despite him being not afflicted with NPD at all.

This is why he was so surprised when gaming sites took his prediction and ran with it.