"actual social scientists"
You're bringing up social science with regards to a claim about biology and you think I'm the one that's confused?
No I'm talking specifically about MALE and FEMALE, it has now become expected within leftist spaces to state that females can have penises and males can have vaginas and I've had that same conversation even on this very website and I'm pretty sure that you agreed with that proposition.
The thing is this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the stupidity I've seen festering in ATHEISTIC leftist spaces, you have claims like:
Competition and hierarchy are entirely social constructs and if we just dismantled western society then everyone would only cooperate
Working for someone is entirely exploitative and if we just dismantled western civilisation and took away all rights to private property exploitation would end( the same morons never realise though that this would have to be done by the state which would be for more oppressive and exploitative )
All behavior is a social construct, the way we behave is entirely determined by the culture we live in
and on and on and on, all of this is spurned on by this idiotic leftist idea that absolute equality does not exist because of the current social structures we have, so women have unequal pay not because they have children but because of patriarchy or society is heteronormative not because a population obvious has to be to stop it from disappearing, but because civilisation is created to oppress lgbt people
the levels of irrationality I've seen in these spaces has to me surpassed anything I've seen in religious spaces, which to me shows quite clearly that the problem has never been religion, it has always been people, which is why we came up with religion however flawed it may be to regulate our behavior
The statement I'm aware of is that men can have vaginas and women can have penises. This is, again, a statement about the difference between gender and sex. This is why I think social scientists are the ones I would consider experts on the subject.
The idea that this is more befuddling than Moses parting the red sea because you don't agree with new definitions for words and context is ridiculous.
edit: I've ignored your statements on socialism on purpose, that's outside of the discussion I am interested in.
Yeah its so fucking insane I couldn't believe it myself at first, especially considering these people are generally the first to jump down the throats of religious people, for how supposedly irrational they are
"A move to classify people on the basis of anatomy or genetics should be abandoned."
Pose star Indya Moore: Trans women’s penises are biologically female
Now granted this one is more weasily since what they argue here is that sex is simply a continuum
How they meaningfully differentiate out other sexes beyond male and female beyond circumstances like XXY, XYY etc etc etc that ALL lead to defects like klinefelters is beyond me
Oh and btw given this definition of sex as a continuum the obviously logical conclusion is that males with larger penises are more male than males with smaller penises and females with Larger breasts are more female than females with smaller breasts
and of course there's thousands of lesser known activists who post stuff like this
"The idea that this is more befuddling than Moses parting the red sea"
I think its possible that Moses could have parted the red sea through some unknown mechanism since there is no way to determine that this could not have happened
Maybe the staff he carried was imbued with unicorn hair and hence had magic properties, which allowed for his various magical feats, I say that's a possibility
I think this to be far less irrational than denying the obvious reality in front of me that obviously people can functionally be separated into two sexes
Does that mean there are no exceptions? Does that mean that because of this idiocy we won't abandon our biology eventually through some transhuman experiment? Of course not
The thing is I totally get it, these people probably look at women for example and observe how they are held back by their biology in some ways and as a result seek to dismiss biology from reality, but that's the same type of process religious people use to come up with heaven - this world is corrupt and flawed and therefore we need to envision a heaven
There's a lot of overlap in motivation there ironically enough, given how the leftists for example scoff at the idea of heaven but seek to bring about utopia through dismissing reality