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Tmfwang on 01 January 2019
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
GribbleGrunger said:

People think that Dreams is a game and that everything they've seen so far represents that game. That's what I mean when I say 'some people still don't understand Dreams'. I really don't think you need to have followed this game extensively to understand what it is, but I do think MM made a mistake by not embracing the 'mystery' of it. The concept IS difficult to express. I'll grant you that but it has been long enough for those who COULD grasp the concept to fully understand it. Me saying 'some people don't understand Dreams' isn't a slight in any way. I don't get many things other people get immediately. That doesn't make me stupid. It just means my thinking works differently. 

 

Mr_No said:

I've been unbeknownst of how many threads Gribble has made about Dreams on this site, trying to explain what this game is really about. And while development and unveiling on the game has been secretive, there's no need for a top dollar marketing team to slowly unveil what this game really is about. It's from Media Molecule, well known for LittleBigPlanet, a platformer that encourages creation. Past demos, while vague, have shown creative capabilities. It's not that hard to connect the dots and figure out what kind of game is this in a general sense.

Lousy marketing team? Maybe. But one could speculate that if Media Molecule is the one dripfeeding information about the game, they have to work with what's given to them. I'm sure all the secretiveness is on purpose, nothing to panic for.

You both, somehow, are replying as if I said something I didn't. My point is that if what Gribble said  is true ("I still think people aren't quite understanding what Dreams actually is"), then the marketing team is at fault. It's one thing to have a game that's hard to explain or where the appeal or core concept are hard to communicate, which is a very good point. It's another when this game has had years and years of exposure.

Quite frankily I think the marketing for the game has been pretty decent/good with only a few hiccups, and I also think most people do understand what the game "actually is". I just think most people don't care; it's a niche game. Many people know about Dreams, most just don't have a reason to be invested yet. Which is why I said that if many people "aren't quite understanding what Dreams actually is", it's a fault of the marketing team, because it's actually gotten a lot of exposure - yet if that was an issue than the problem would be how the game has been relayed to the audience. 

Me personally, I'm casually excited. I think it looks like a good game but I'm not good at turning an idea in my head into reality. I do however look forward to seeing what can be done with it.

The thing about Dreams is that whatever (and I truly mean whatever) asset you need, you’re almost guaranteed that someone else has created that asset and published it. That right there makes creation as easy as cake



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AngryLittleAlchemist on 01 January 2019
Tmfwang said:

The thing about Dreams is that whatever (and I truly mean whatever) asset you need, you’re almost guaranteed that someone else has created that asset and published it. That right there makes creation as easy as cake

I'll definitely try it out, I'm not saying I won't like it. I'm just worried because even in a title like Minecraft, I somehow end up fucking up my creation  



ice on 01 January 2019
BasilZero said:
Doesnt sound like a good game.


Would prefer LBP4 over this.

This, I feel like there's going to be layoffs at MM but hopefully the game does well enough to avoid that.



GribbleGrunger on 01 January 2019
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Tmfwang said:

The thing about Dreams is that whatever (and I truly mean whatever) asset you need, you’re almost guaranteed that someone else has created that asset and published it. That right there makes creation as easy as cake

I'll definitely try it out, I'm not saying I won't like it. I'm just worried because even in a title like Minecraft, I somehow end up fucking up my creation  

Don't worry, you can't be as bad as me. Now I've seen what other people have done, I feel even worse. 



 

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AngryLittleAlchemist on 01 January 2019
GribbleGrunger said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I'll definitely try it out, I'm not saying I won't like it. I'm just worried because even in a title like Minecraft, I somehow end up fucking up my creation  

Don't worry, you can't be as bad as me. Now I've seen what other people have done, I feel even worse. 

We'll have to see! 

This might be the only game besides fighting games where I actually look up tips and stuff haha. 



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SvennoJ on 01 January 2019

I hope they improved the way to find the good user creations. LBP was plagued with trophy levels and other nonsense, like mine I'll like yours etc. There will probably be lists on websites as for Mario Maker to find the good stuff. Hopefully there will be a section with the best VR levels :)



GribbleGrunger on 01 January 2019
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Don't worry, you can't be as bad as me. Now I've seen what other people have done, I feel even worse. 

We'll have to see! 

This might be the only game besides fighting games where I actually look up tips and stuff haha. 

Trust me, you will ...

SvennoJ said:
I hope they improved the way to find the good user creations. LBP was plagued with trophy levels and other nonsense, like mine I'll like yours etc. There will probably be lists on websites as for Mario Maker to find the good stuff. Hopefully there will be a section with the best VR levels :)

It's everything you'd ever want. You can search for specific genres and different disciplines like music, art, sculptures, games etc. You can search for most liked, newest additions and highest praised (can't remember exactly what that last one was called). You can follow a creator. You can go into the games that are made, check what assets it has, pick an asset and then go directly to the person that made it or follow him/her. 

Following creators is going to yield the best results, as it did in LBP. I've just been browsing through some character creations and people are not prepared for what they're going to see. They're even beyond what I expected and I had what I thought was realistic expectations.  



 

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kirby007 on 01 January 2019

Simple its a niche so it wont be huge commerially, and within the niche the owners may/will love it bit only a small % will use it optimally



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GribbleGrunger on 01 January 2019
kirby007 said:
Simple its a niche so it wont be huge commerially, and within the niche the owners may/will love it bit only a small % will use it optimally

Dreams is not just a development tool, it's a service just like Youtube. 



 

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Faelco on 01 January 2019
iceland said:
BasilZero said:
Doesnt sound like a good game.


Would prefer LBP4 over this.

This, I feel like there's going to be layoffs at MM but hopefully the game does well enough to avoid that.

MM is profitable even without releasing games (because they sell services to other studios IIRC). They should be fine whatever the sales are.