| CrazyGamer2017 said: A sad day in the history of our European Union. Usually I'm not too much on countries and a feeling of belonging here or there but tonight I wish to make clear that in light of European history, 2000 years of endless wars, invasions, massacres, hatred, nationalism, division, in light of the motto of my country (United we are stronger) and in light of the lasting peace that the EU has brought to the old continent, I wish to make clear that tonight I am PROUD of being European. This is the only flag I care for and that has a little bit of meaning for me: |
Despite the fact that Europeans have tried to conquer and subjugate us for the past thousand years, we actually like Europe a lot.
Most/many Brexiteers think the EU is just the wrong direction for Europe to take.
Ironically, some of the most ardent Brexiteers want to see a strong Europe and would to love to see Germany and France's land and air forces combine their budget with our navy. Europe (or the EU) could rival the US militarily if it focused on defence instead of agriculture. We could challenge them economically if we spent cash on R+D. We value security and stability more than most Europeans and understand why the US has to be the 'bad guy' sometimes. Europe would have seen another mass genocide if Tony Blair hadn't successfully convinced Bill Clinton into intervening in Kosovo.
We don't hate immigrants (especially European ones) but we won't allow our smaller towns and villages to be subsumed with a foreign culture either.
Many of us voted Brexit just on economic grounds. A good chunk of us were ambivalent but saw that the working classes were being hammered by cheap foreign labour, economically and culturally and wanted to support them.
It would probably surprise most Euros just how much the UK 'hates' each other. Not just Scotland v England or North v South but even Liverpool v Manchester or Lancashire v Yorkshire. We're a nation built on hating each other.
The kumbaya, 'let's all be friends' shit doesn't work when some people just love to compete.
Had the EU offered a serious challenge to compete economically or militarily with the US or China we were and would have remained a full partner.
Edit - EU hasn't done shit for peace. It was NATO and US hegemony that kept the peace. European countries couldn't fight each other even if they wanted to given the amount of US bases they have.
Last edited by Pyro as Bill - on 31 January 2020Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)
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