Forums - Sales Discussion - November NPD 2018 Thread

Intrinsic said:
Miyamotoo said:

I said Switch is biggest winner (and 75% incrase alone proves that), and you wrote Lol. I made reply to that.

This biggest winner thing.

I wrote LOL because I really find it funny. And  have explained why already..... my own personal view on the use of percentages. Thats like saying we didnt lose as bad and at least did much better than last year. Doesn't change that it still lost the month by 80k to a 5yr old console. 

I am not taking anything from what the NS accomplished. Just remember.... the PS4 is 5yrs old. 

 So it funny to use percentage, OK, then we will use raw numbers, 775k vs 1350k, 1550 vs 1470k or 1400k vs 1340k, tell me what is most impressive result compared to last year?

PS4 is 5 years old console, but 5 years old console that was selling great this year and on pair or better compared to last year, also last month had much stronger sales than last year, and now in November had great deal for $199 with one great game.



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And people STILL want to try and throw mud on Benji. Get over yourselves.



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Miyamotoo said:
zorg1000 said:

YTD

PS4-4.52m

NSW-3.85m

XBO-3.44m

So PS4 currently leads for 670k,

Switch should not have any problem taking year, Switch should will probably have at least around 2m December, and PS4 will probably be below 1.2m.

both PS4 and XB1 will sell less than one million in December.

 

Switch will very likely surpass 2 million.



2020 predictions: NSW 25m, PS5 6m, XSX 4.5m, PS4 11m, XB1 4m

In December 2019 i predicted 21m Switch, 9m PS4 and 3m XB1, but that was before COVID, obvius increased my predictions.

Ryng_Tolu said:
I'll update the thread when i have time.

Hardware results:

PS4 ~ 1478K
NSW ~ 1356K
XB1 ~ 1342K
3DS ~ 258K

Wow close month between all 3.

XB & Switch being 14k apart, and PS4 only 122k ahead of the Switch.



Miyamotoo said:

 So it funny to use percentage, OK, then we will use raw numbers, 775k vs 1350k, 1550 vs 1470k or 1400k vs 1340k, tell me what is most impressive result compared to last year?

PS4 is 5 years old console, but 5 years old console that was selling great this year and on pair or better compared to last year, also last month had much stronger sales than last year, and now in November had great deal for $199 with one great game.

Errrrr....... 

The PS4 has been trending down YOY by about 10% all year round. Its performance in november is still reflective of that. It managed like one r two months in the entire year so far better than last year. Thats called bucking the trend not setting a precedent. 

The NS has been trending upwards YOY all year. And from nintendo PR was aready expected to be way up this year. You can look at improvements all you want' but that is also expected of a console that is going into its second year (and yes, it had its own deals too) and it doesn't change that it still was the second best selling console.

Again..... the PS4 is 5yrs old.

And lets make this simple....

PS4 first november (2014) 841k

PS4 second november (2015) 1539k (85% YOY increase)

So the NS is tracking and doing what its expected to be doing. And nothing that is out of the ordinary for a good selling console. 



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Welfare said:
And people STILL want to try and throw mud on Benji. Get over yourselves.

I thought it was silly too, his insights have been great and on the mark most of the time.



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Ryng_Tolu said:
Miyamotoo said:

So PS4 currently leads for 670k,

Switch should not have any problem taking year, Switch should will probably have at least around 2m December, and PS4 will probably be below 1.2m.

both PS4 and XB1 will sell less than one million in December.

 

Switch will very likely surpass 2 million.

Honestly I have my doubts. Last year it did around 1.5M. And those december sales were including cyber monday that went into november this year.

But it has smash this year. I am peing it to do around 1.8M to 2M fr december but not over that.

I also expect both the PS4 and XB1 to be below 1M. Unless sony does another $199 promotion. Which I don't see happening 



Intrinsic said:
Miyamotoo said:

 So it funny to use percentage, OK, then we will use raw numbers, 775k vs 1350k, 1550 vs 1470k or 1400k vs 1340k, tell me what is most impressive result compared to last year?

PS4 is 5 years old console, but 5 years old console that was selling great this year and on pair or better compared to last year, also last month had much stronger sales than last year, and now in November had great deal for $199 with one great game.

Errrrr....... 

The PS4 has been trending down YOY by about 10% all year round. Its performance in november is still reflective of that. It managed like one r two months in the entire year so far better than last year. Thats called bucking the trend not setting a precedent. 

The NS has been trending upwards YOY all year. And from nintendo PR was aready expected to be way up this year. You can look at improvements all you want' but that is also expected of a console that is going into its second year (and yes, it had its own deals too) and it doesn't change that it still was the second best selling console.

Again..... the PS4 is 5yrs old.

And lets make this simple....

PS4 first november (2014) 841k

PS4 second november (2015) 1539k (85% YOY increase)

So the NS is tracking and doing what its expected to be doing. And nothing that is out of the ordinary for a good selling console. 

That's quite inaccurate, totals Jan-Oct 2018:

PS4: 3048K (+14% YoY)

NSW: 2505K (-4% YoY)

XB1: 2083K (+35% YoY)

So like you can see both PS4 and XB1 were YoY up until this month while Switch was YoY down, so no, this November is not reflective of result until now.

 

I dont talking about what's expected or not, that wasn't my point at all, I made you reply to you because you wrote LOL when I wrote "Switch is biggest winner of this month".



What a pleasant surprise. Today I went on the internet with high hopes and was satisfied to see that the Los Angeles Chargers won last night.

But man, those 3DS sales are much lower than I expected. I guess every kid that is old enough to name what Nintendo console they want says Switch, plus all the parents are able to afford such a purchase, thanks to Trump's positive effect on the economy.



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Miyamotoo said:
Intrinsic said:

Errrrr....... 

The PS4 has been trending down YOY by about 10% all year round. Its performance in november is still reflective of that. It managed like one r two months in the entire year so far better than last year. Thats called bucking the trend not setting a precedent. 

The NS has been trending upwards YOY all year. And from nintendo PR was aready expected to be way up this year. You can look at improvements all you want' but that is also expected of a console that is going into its second year (and yes, it had its own deals too) and it doesn't change that it still was the second best selling console.

Again..... the PS4 is 5yrs old.

And lets make this simple....

PS4 first november (2014) 841k

PS4 second november (2015) 1539k (85% YOY increase)

So the NS is tracking and doing what its expected to be doing. And nothing that is out of the ordinary for a good selling console. 

That's quite inaccurate, totals Jan-Oct 2018:

PS4: 3048K (+14% YoY)

NSW: 2505K (-4% YoY)

XB1: 2083K (+35% YoY)

So like you can see both PS4 and XB1 were YoY up until this month while Switch was YoY down, so no, this November is not reflective of result until now.

 

I dont talking about what's expected or not, that wasn't my point at all, I made you reply to you because you wrote LOL when I wrote "Switch is biggest winner of this month".

So when its convenient we are only looking at the entire year? Out of those 10 months the PS4 was down YOY for around 7 of them. Thats a trend. The odd month or two it was up is aka bucking the trend. It just happened to have been up by a lot those months which is why its whole year performance looks good. It doesn't change that its been "trending" downwards.

Be honest here..... ut of those 10 months how many did NS perform better for? my guess woould be more than 5 of them? Which even though YOY it was down by 4% it has been trending upwards all year.

But ok... for whatever its worth.... NS is the biggest winner this month. Though technically if thats how you want to look at it what you really should be saying is that its the only winner this month. Cause all the others are not even up but rather down YOY. 

 

So.... yay?