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Forums - Sales Discussion - November NPD 2018 Thread

Intrinsic on 14 December 2018
kazuyamishima said:

 

Intrinsic said:

As i said before.... I feel sony only shipped exactly 1M of those SM $199 PS4s.  

Exactly what I think. It seems that Sony want to make profit right now.

Yh I guess you could say that.

Bottom line is that they haven't got anything t prove. And either way they are hitting 100M sold soon all the while being in a position where they are making money on the consoles sold.

The fan in me wants them to drop the price to $199 permanently but the truth of it is that they don't have to. 



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gemini_d@rk on 14 December 2018

Sony has a global market to supply, and yet knows the amount it needs to stay ahead of others in the most competitive market.
If this information is true, Sony won another November, but it was a good month for everyone.



Miyamotoo on 14 December 2018
Intrinsic said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yeah, off course, it sold 75% better compared to last year without any price cut offcourse its bigger winner. Despite PS4/XB4 are 5 years od consoles they are doing great hole year, and both this year had great deals for Black Friday and huge game launch.

It was expected that Switch will do around 1.3m, but that doesnt make numbers that Switch done less impressive.

You are about to take this somewhere else....... I NEVER said what the NS did wasn't impressive. I said it was expected. 

And you are talking about the NS as if it didn't have deals at all through novemeber. GS for instance was selling it at $299 with MK8 and a $50 gift card.

I'm saying that the NS did as expected. I even admitted that I shouldn't have dropped my initial 1.3M prediction by around 100k. I'm also saying that it was expected that the other two consoles would be down.

I said Switch is biggest winner (and 75% incrase alone proves that), and you wrote Lol. I made reply to that.

I just saw you wrote it funny to use percentage, they we will use raw numbers, 775k vs 1350k, 1550 vs 1470k or 1400k vs 1340k, tell me what is most impresive result compared to last year?

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Intrinsic on 14 December 2018
Miyamotoo said:

I said Switch is biggest winner (and 75% incrase alone proves that), and you wrote Lol. I made reply to that.

This biggest winner thing.

I wrote LOL because I really find it funny. And  have explained why already..... my own personal view on the use of percentages. Thats like saying we didnt lose as bad and at least did much better than last year. Doesn't change that it still lost the month by 80k to a 5yr old console. 

I am not taking anything from what the NS accomplished. Just remember.... the PS4 is 5yrs old. 



kazuyamishima on 14 December 2018
Intrinsic said:
kazuyamishima said:

 

Exactly what I think. It seems that Sony want to make profit right now.

Yh I guess you could say that.

Bottom line is that they haven't got anything t prove. And either way they are hitting 100M sold soon all the while being in a position where they are making money on the consoles sold.

The fan in me wants them to drop the price to $199 permanently but the truth of it is that they don't have to. 

The best I’m seeing them doing with is $249.99 the cod black ops 4 bundle. There are a lot of releases for the first 6 months of 2019 and 

probably $179.99 for BF 2019



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Miyamotoo on 14 December 2018
Intrinsic said:
Miyamotoo said:

I said Switch is biggest winner (and 75% incrase alone proves that), and you wrote Lol. I made reply to that.

This biggest winner thing.

I wrote LOL because I really find it funny. And  have explained why already..... my own personal view on the use of percentages. Thats like saying we didnt lose as bad and at least did much better than last year. Doesn't change that it still lost the month by 80k to a 5yr old console. 

I am not taking anything from what the NS accomplished. Just remember.... the PS4 is 5yrs old. 

 So it funny to use percentage, OK, then we will use raw numbers, 775k vs 1350k, 1550 vs 1470k or 1400k vs 1340k, tell me what is most impressive result compared to last year?

PS4 is 5 years old console, but 5 years old console that was selling great this year and on pair or better compared to last year, also last month had much stronger sales than last year, and now in November had great deal for $199 with one great game.



Welfare on 14 December 2018

And people STILL want to try and throw mud on Benji. Get over yourselves.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

Ryng on 14 December 2018
Miyamotoo said:
zorg1000 said:

YTD

PS4-4.52m

NSW-3.85m

XBO-3.44m

So PS4 currently leads for 670k,

Switch should not have any problem taking year, Switch should will probably have at least around 2m December, and PS4 will probably be below 1.2m.

both PS4 and XB1 will sell less than one million in December.

 

Switch will very likely surpass 2 million.



JRPGfan on 14 December 2018
Ryng_Tolu said:
I'll update the thread when i have time.

Hardware results:

PS4 ~ 1478K
NSW ~ 1356K
XB1 ~ 1342K
3DS ~ 258K

Wow close month between all 3.

XB & Switch being 14k apart, and PS4 only 122k ahead of the Switch.



Intrinsic on 14 December 2018
Miyamotoo said:

 So it funny to use percentage, OK, then we will use raw numbers, 775k vs 1350k, 1550 vs 1470k or 1400k vs 1340k, tell me what is most impressive result compared to last year?

PS4 is 5 years old console, but 5 years old console that was selling great this year and on pair or better compared to last year, also last month had much stronger sales than last year, and now in November had great deal for $199 with one great game.

Errrrr....... 

The PS4 has been trending down YOY by about 10% all year round. Its performance in november is still reflective of that. It managed like one r two months in the entire year so far better than last year. Thats called bucking the trend not setting a precedent. 

The NS has been trending upwards YOY all year. And from nintendo PR was aready expected to be way up this year. You can look at improvements all you want' but that is also expected of a console that is going into its second year (and yes, it had its own deals too) and it doesn't change that it still was the second best selling console.

Again..... the PS4 is 5yrs old.

And lets make this simple....

PS4 first november (2014) 841k

PS4 second november (2015) 1539k (85% YOY increase)

So the NS is tracking and doing what its expected to be doing. And nothing that is out of the ordinary for a good selling console.