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Forums - Sales Discussion - Worldwide Charts Yearly Total - October 13th

DonFerrari said:
Intrinsic said:

Thats impossible if you ask me. Not even a fight. 

Cause as you said it needs 3M extra. So if the PS4 sells 5M during the holidays, it needs to sell 8M. 

On another note, The PS4  is pretty much averaging 1.2/month. Thats impressive. And we aren't done with october and the big nov and dec months aren't in the mix yet.

I'm pretty safe on saying some people still believe that PS4 will be nearer 16M and Switch 20M as their original projections, than PS4 ending ahead.

Then those people must be crazy.

Unless japan pulls some crazy numbers. Cause as it stands NS may not even win in NA. And we all know how EU goes; so tht means that NS will have to make up all that ground from japan.... I just don't see that happening.



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So just to understand the numbers- the console totals are total sold through to customers, correct?  Because Sony announced that 86.1 million had shipped as of September.

And for software- is digital not included in the numbers?  because they also announced that they had sold 778 million games.  That's a 200 million difference - or roughly 26%.



Intrinsic said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm pretty safe on saying some people still believe that PS4 will be nearer 16M and Switch 20M as their original projections, than PS4 ending ahead.

Then those people must be crazy.

Unless japan pulls some crazy numbers. Cause as it stands NS may not even win in NA. And we all know how EU goes; so tht means that NS will have to make up all that ground from japan.... I just don't see that happening.

Crazier than Sony that only upped their forecast to like 17-17,5 and Nintendo that haven't reduced theirs?



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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

The 4 Switch games in the top 10 were not released this year lmao.
Smash and Pokemon are coming and MK8 will get a big boost during the holidays. Bundles for Switch are coming also, it was dried up most of 2018 but it has multiple huge system sellers coming in the next months. Switch is about to bloom.



Intrinsic said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm pretty safe on saying some people still believe that PS4 will be nearer 16M and Switch 20M as their original projections, than PS4 ending ahead.

Then those people must be crazy.

Unless japan pulls some crazy numbers. Cause as it stands NS may not even win in NA. And we all know how EU goes; so tht means that NS will have to make up all that ground from japan.... I just don't see that happening.

You know some people said a year ago PS4 will never beat Wii.



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Zombie9ers said:

And for software- is digital not included in the numbers?  because they also announced that they had sold 778 million games.  That's a 200 million difference - or roughly 26%.

VGchartz doesn't estimate digital sales from what I have understand.



DonFerrari said:
Intrinsic said:

Then those people must be crazy.

Unless japan pulls some crazy numbers. Cause as it stands NS may not even win in NA. And we all know how EU goes; so tht means that NS will have to make up all that ground from japan.... I just don't see that happening.

Crazier than Sony that only upped their forecast to like 17-17,5 and Nintendo that haven't reduced theirs?

Truth is that nintendo doesn't have to reduce theirs.

Its easy to get FY shipments and Full year sales mixed up cause they overlap.

For the FY apr 2018 -Mar 2019 nintendo plans on shipping 20M and sony is now doing 17.5M. There is alot more to that than just those numbers. 

Total 2018 sales (jan - dec) could very well be 18M+ for sony and 17M+ for nintendo and both will still have a whole FY quarter of shipments left to meet. But at the end of the day, sonys total FY shipments may be at 18.5M (upped again) and nintendos still at 20M. It all comes down to how much was shipped in q4 (jan-mar) FY 2017-2018 and how much of that stock was carried into the new FY. 

If nintendo ships 20 as at the end of the 2018-2019 FY, that may just mean they have an excess going into Q1 2019-2020 FY and they would just ship fewer units then. Same thing happened to sony last year, their total shipments for the year was less than their total sales or something like that.



xMetroid said:
The 4 Switch games in the top 10 were not released this year lmao.
Smash and Pokemon are coming and MK8 will get a big boost during the holidays. Bundles for Switch are coming also, it was dried up most of 2018 but it has multiple huge system sellers coming in the next months. Switch is about to bloom.

Thats not as good a thing as you think.

That always happens with Nintendo platforms, and thats simply because there isn,t a whole lot to choose from. 

Its like the reason GOW isn't the top seller on the PS4 now is because spiderman is the new hot title. And there are a ton of other gamers competing for buyers cash. But anyone buying a switch today will pretty much be buying the games that were released last year because there is nothing to buy for this year.

This is also why nintendo games don't drop in price as quickly as other platforms. All good for nintendo, bad for you.



Intrinsic said:
xMetroid said:
The 4 Switch games in the top 10 were not released this year lmao.
Smash and Pokemon are coming and MK8 will get a big boost during the holidays. Bundles for Switch are coming also, it was dried up most of 2018 but it has multiple huge system sellers coming in the next months. Switch is about to bloom.

Thats not as good a thing as you think.

That always happens with Nintendo platforms, and thats simply because there isn,t a whole lot to choose from. 

Its like the reason GOW isn't the top seller on the PS4 now is because spiderman is the new hot title. And there are a ton of other gamers competing for buyers cash. But anyone buying a switch today will pretty much be buying the games that were released last year because there is nothing to buy for this year.

This is also why nintendo games don't drop in price as quickly as other platforms. All good for nintendo, bad for you.

That's only the top 10 though, looking at the top 50 shows Kirby, Mario Tennis, Tropical Freeze, Mario Party, Minecraft (retail version), Octopath & Labo as games that released this year to chart.

New releases in the top 50

PS4-16

XBO-8

NSW-7



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Replicant said:

PS4 is killing it!

Great to see healthy numbers for all 3 (both software and hardware).

Thats true :)

Good work, Spidey.