| flashfire926 said: - No online battle outside of friends |
This isn't true actually, Pikachu x3 is the universally known code people use to battle/trade with randoms. Still the online options are more limited.
Lonely_Dolphin said:
Denial it is then, but even if that were true Let's Go is still a worse value, $60 for 153 Pokemon vs. $40 for 200~ Pokemon so mute point. Also, of course anything can be any level of value to anyone personally, hence I'm obviously talking objective value. To me Let's Go isn't worth the dirt on my shoes, but I acknowledge the fact that it is still has some of what you'd expect out of a mainline Pokemon and brings some new features so a price of $0 is just wrong. At the same time, so to is the price of $60 as it has less content than cheaper titles. If Let's Go were $20 the game would still be worthless to me but I would no longer call it a cash grab. |
Value is inherently subjective, particularly when you are describing it with money, which is not anything stable.
But, hey, let's go with your logic.
Pokemon Go has 417 Pokemon. For 0 dollars.
If the value of a Pokemon game is solely on the number of Pokemon, then Pokemon go is objectively the most valuable game. Not just by a little, but by a literally infinite amount. By comparison, Sun and Moon are objectively worthless and clearly a despicable cash grab. I mean, 802 Pokemon for 40 dollars, vs 417 for ZERO DOLLARS?
Pokemon Go is an amazing value. Sun and Moon is a cash grab. Fact.
Last edited by JWeinCom - on 28 November 2018
I have to agree with those saying 800 pokemon is not important for value. I played all the pokemon games except sun and moon and even with the options i never bothers to do the trading and transfering to get all the pokemon in my new games
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Baddman said:
I have to agree with those saying 800 pokemon is not important for value. I played all the pokemon games except sun and moon and even with the options i never bothers to do the trading and transfering to get all the pokemon in my new games |
Let's not go that far. The number of Pokemon is important. But basing the value just on that number and ignoring the gameplay mechanics, sound, visuals, etc is utterly absurd.
| flashfire926 said: - No wonder trade or GTS - No pokemon bank functionality - No online battle outside of friends - No held items - No abilities - No breeding system - 150 pokemon only (when US/UM had 400 and X/Y had 450) - Yet it's still 50% more expensive LonelyDolphin has a point, you know |
No he doesn't because his only argument was more Pokemon=better.
These are valid points though. Now what benefits does let's go have over sub and moon?
JWeinCom said:
Let's not go that far. The number of Pokemon is important. But basing the value just on that number and ignoring the gameplay mechanics, sound, visuals, etc is utterly absurd. |
I meant having all the pokemon has never been something od importance to me. I've always been just fine without feeling the need to trade between my games to fill my pokedex even tho I was capable of doing it
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JWeinCom said:
No he doesn't because his only argument was more Pokemon=better.
These are valid points though. Now what benefits does let's go have over sub and moon? |
- Pokemon following you
- Better graphics/resolution (I really dislike the art style, but thats subjective)
- co-op play
- seeing pokemon the overworld
I mean, these are great additions, but not nearly rnough to make up for what was lost.
Bet with Intrinsic:
The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.
| flashfire926 said: U
- Pokemon following you - Better graphics/resolution (I really dislike the art style, but thats subjective) - co-op play - seeing pokemon the overworld I mean, these are great additions, but not nearly rnough to make up for what was lost.
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You missed a few things on both ends. In terms of features that are gone...
- Battle Tower or equivalent. Which is my biggest gripe with this game, aside from the crappy online mode.
- The photograph thing from Sun and Moon... which was kind of weird, but maybe some people liked it.
- Various street pass features
- A few other things. Like vs seeker, the pokemon finder, and others.
- Super training
-Weather
-Day/night cycle
On the positive side
-Ability to play on TV.
-Candy system (big improvement over EV points IMO)
-Easy access to Kanto Pokemon (how big of a deal that is depends on how much you like those guys)
-Motion controls
-Pokemon Go Connectivity
-Master Trainers
-Improved audio
There are also a bunch of tweaks that aren't quite additions, but may make the game more enjoyable.
-Easier to get high IV Pokemon.
-Simpler metagame due to the removal of certain features (abilities and items for instance) and less Pokemon.
-Ability to see IVs easily. (this was in Sun and Moon but not available till much later in the game, and much more work to unlock).
As for whether or not these features make up for the lost ones... That's up to you. In terms of price, the visuals are probably the most relevant factor, because those are more expensive, especially because they need to be animated differently to be on the field. If you look at effort put in vs price, I'm pretty sure that US/UM cost much less to make, and would have to be considered more of a cash grab if either was. Let's Go definitely cost way more than any of the third versions/remakes that used existing engines.
In terms of value, for me, it's kind of a push. If I had to pick one game and I could never play the other, I'd definitely go Sun and Moon. But I actually like Let's Go as a less time intensive Pokemon experience that for now fits better into my life style. And I think this is a lot better than the typical third versions/direct sequels (Ultra Sun/Moon, Black White 2, etc) which I never saw much value in.
Last edited by JWeinCom - on 29 November 2018
Baddman said:
I meant having all the pokemon has never been something od importance to me. I've always been just fine without feeling the need to trade between my games to fill my pokedex even tho I was capable of doing it |
Yeah. To be honest, every time I get a new Pokemon I'm all like "YEAH I'M GONNA MAKE THE BEST TEAM EVER"! And I think of how to put together the best team thinking of how to use the pokemon from every game. Then, I get lazy an am like "eh... fuck it. I'll just use the ones I can get in this game". And finally, "eh fuck it. I'm just gonna move on with my life."
JWeinCom said:
Value is inherently subjective, particularly when you are describing it with money, which is not anything stable. Pokemon Go has 417 Pokemon. For 0 dollars. Pokemon Go is an amazing value. Sun and Moon is a cash grab. Fact. |
Objective value is most certainly a thing, i.e. a 2lb bag of Twix is straight up more valuable than a 1lb bag for the same price.
Ha, you're really so naive to think I'm saying that's the sole reason. That's just the biggest point is all.
Alrighty then, one is free to have that opinion. Plenty of people think this series as a whole is a cash grab, and that's perfectly ok.
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