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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 Won October NPD (PS4 > NS > XBO)

Barkley said:
Miyamotoo said:

Because that's still funny and that become meme.

Multiple people making fun of another user every week because of a terrible prediction that was made a year ago isn't funny. It's malicious. It doesn't matter if it's a "meme" it's needless taunting on a very frequent basis, and it's not done in good jest when many of the users doing it clearly don't like him.

Its not just about that one prediction, its more because only thing he was doing on this cite was downplaying and being negative about Switch sales and potential, its was very annoying. Last time was few weeks ago and thats reason why again he was banned.



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Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

I mean they do in some degree, but we already saw that both PS4 and Switch can do great in same month, both PS4 and Switch will have great Holiday season in any case, saying that Switch will not do during Holiday season because PS4 Spiderman $199 bundle is wrong.

But I never said PS4 will affect Switch. I often say Switch has no chance to beat the PS4 in a particular month but I never say Switch doesn't sell because of PS4.

I never did said that you said that.



Miyamotoo said:
Barkley said:

Multiple people making fun of another user every week because of a terrible prediction that was made a year ago isn't funny. It's malicious. It doesn't matter if it's a "meme" it's needless taunting on a very frequent basis, and it's not done in good jest when many of the users doing it clearly don't like him.

Its not just about that one prediction, its more because only thing he was doing on this cite was downplaying and being negative about Switch sales and potential, its was very annoying. Last time was few weeks ago and thats reason why again he was banned.

It was very annoying? Great to forget about him then instead of bringing him up even when he's not around. I can guarantee you he feeds off all the attention you lot give him and it only adds fuel to his fire that keeps him going. 



Miyamotoo said:
Barkley said:

Multiple people making fun of another user every week because of a terrible prediction that was made a year ago isn't funny. It's malicious. It doesn't matter if it's a "meme" it's needless taunting on a very frequent basis, and it's not done in good jest when many of the users doing it clearly don't like him.

Its not just about that one prediction, its more because only thing he was doing on this cite was downplaying and being negative about Switch sales and potential, its was very annoying. Last time was few weeks ago and thats reason why again he was banned.

That doesn't change that you guys constantly bringing him up takes threads off topic (funnily enough never to mention the things he got right).

Besides, afaik it's against the rules to taunt users not present/banned users. Whether mods will ensure that this is respected, is not up to me though.



Oh no, switch is falling off a cliff. We shouldve taken quickrick’s word everyone, he was right all along.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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Guys did we do an October NPD prediction thread?



CGI-Quality said:

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The quickrick discussion needs to end. Let's keep it about NPD. Thanks, guys!

It's my fault for starting the quickrick discussion from making that joke post. Sorry about that.



Miyamotoo said:

 

colafitte said:

Everyone expecting Swith to obliterate PS4 this holiday season because what happened in December last year.....,are understimating PS4 again..., like always. Last year was last year, it had fewer stock and their main bundle was the failure Battlefront II was, XB X just launched and it was the first holiday for Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 DX and Mario Odyssey. Now PS4 have RDR 2, COD BOPS 4, Spiderman, GOW, ....and it seems there is a lot more stock.

In my opinion PS4 is bound to have a record November NPD possibly around 2M sales, probably selling aroun 500k more than Switch that month and in December I expect PS4 way up YOY, so yes, Switch will win December because Smash and Pokemon but the difference won't be enough to surpass PS4. I won't be surprised if PS4 ends selling more NOV+DEC combined than Switch...

edit: And by the way, Switch won't reach 20M, not even close....Switch is no Wii. If it ends with 17M it will be a success.

PS4 and Switch dont effect each other, Switch last year did had Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 DX and Mario Odyssey, but this Nov+Dec has Pokemon and Smash Bros, plus plenty of bundles, Switch have much stronger Holiday season than it did last year.

Do you want to bet that Switch will pass 17m in shipped units?

What I meant to say is that last year Switch was catching all the attention in the american public because of those games, and PS4 had nothing of that level, but this year they have GOW, Spiderman, COD BOPS 4, RDR2, ....which are as popular if not more than Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash....So now PS4 is not at the same disadvantage in the cosnumer pereception, and in holidays, of course each console affect each other, even between PS4 and Switch. We are talking here with the most casual audience that will choose one or another on popularity.

On the second point. I expressed myself badly. What i meant to say was Switch won't reach 20M SHIPPED as Nintendo want, and if they SELL 17M consoles it will be a success, so in reality i'm expecting around 18-19M shipped (more 18 than 19 to be honest).

If Switch is around 22M at the end of october, I expect Switch selling 10M top until the end of the year, and 3 more million TOP the next 3 months, so a total of 35M total sales by March end. Add 1m more in shipments left and I have around 36M shipped by next fiscal year. Nintendo is expecting around 38M shipped to reach that 20M goal. In my opinion they will fall short by at least 2M.

 

Edit: And the more i think about 10M in the last 2 months, the more I think it will be impossible to reach the goal. Switch sold around 6M last year in the same time period. Pokemon and Smash are huge but Switch won't sell 4M more in the same period, no way....

Last edited by colafitte - on 20 November 2018

just happy to see all three manufacturers doing well...they are all winning in my books



colafitte said:
Miyamotoo said:

 

PS4 and Switch dont effect each other, Switch last year did had Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 DX and Mario Odyssey, but this Nov+Dec has Pokemon and Smash Bros, plus plenty of bundles, Switch have much stronger Holiday season than it did last year.

Do you want to bet that Switch will pass 17m in shipped units?

What I meant to say is that last year Switch was catching all the attention in the american public because of those games, and PS4 had nothing of that level, but this year they have GOW, Spiderman, COD BOPS 4, RDR2, ....which are as popular if not more than Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash....So now PS4 is not at the same disadvantage in the cosnumer pereception, and in holidays, of course each console affect each other, even between PS4 and Switch. We are talking here with the most casual audience that will choose one or another on popularity.

On the second point. I expressed myself badly. What i meant to say was Switch won't reach 20M SHIPPED as Nintendo want, and if they SELL 17M consoles it will be a success, so in reality i'm expecting around 18-19M shipped (more 18 than 19 to be honest).

If Switch is around 22M at the end of october, I expect Switch selling 10M top until the end of the year, and 3 more million TOP the next 3 months, so a total of 35M total sales by March end. Add 1m more in shipments left and I have around 36M shipped by next fiscal year. Nintendo is expecting around 38M shipped to reach that 20M goal. In my opinion they will fall short by at least 2M.

Actually Switch this Holiday season catching more attention than last year because despite already avalible MK8D, Zelda, Odyssey and Splatoon2, Switch is receiving Pokemon and Smash and plenty intresting bundles. PS4 with Spiderman bundle will have more attention than it did had last year, but that doesn't mean that Switch will have less attention than it did last year.

We will see, they have chance reaching 20m shipped consoles and meat their goal, I dont think they will ship less than 18m in worst case and thats still very good number.

Q3 (October-December) will most likly be around 10m and Q4 around 3.5-4m, and they would need 11m in Q3 and 4m in Q4 to meat their goal of 20m shipped Switch units for FY 2018.