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No, you obviously missed my point.

The thing was that guy said that the Wii has NO GOOD 3rd party games. None, not one, and never would.

I said that opinion is invalid because even if you could find one out of the list, that would make the opinion provably incorrect.

You attempting to flame me, it's silly. You listing those games as ports, is silly.

Orange Box is a port. In fact, most PS3 games are ports, or multiplats, that are worth playing. I'd say the exclusive 3rd party support is FAAAARR greater on the Wii than the PS3.

You simply use your little buzz words to marginalize those games, like "port" or whatever talking point you wanna use.

In the end, you missed the point of my post, you shouldn't have, it was crystal clear, perhaps you should read it more carefully.

Either way, flaming me, never a good idea. I made a well thought out post, that you couldn't even be bothered to understand the meaning of. That's all I'll say until I see your response.

Hint: My point wasn't that the Wii has equivelant 3rd party support, or even good 3rd party support. Only that at least one 3rd party game on the Wii will now, or at some time in the future, be a AAA title. The games I listed were merely examples that one could use if one were so inclined to disprove the fact that the Wii never has nor ever will get a AAA 3rd party title.

 This is the correct answer!! It's as simple as that.

I meant compared to all past good adventure games, but Sam and Max is likely better. It has a story, at least. Z&K may be 1/30 as expensive as Gran Turismo but that's about how much it's going to sale compard to Gran Turismo. If development is 2 to 1, and the higher cost 360 and PS3 have a much larger combined install base, the math favors more 360/PS3 games. Also keep in mind that third parties now have plenty of assets for games having already worked on PS3 and 360, so their development costs for the next games won't be as high. So, even if it's more like 4 to 1, if the game is going to sell much better on 360 and PS3 then it'll go there. I also agree that developers want to push the envelope (well, some of them), so some types of innovative games will go to 360/PS3 and some will go to Wii. I think the 360/PS3 option is more likely, though, imo.

The PS3 and XBox 360's userbases combined are just over 125% of the Wii's current userbase, this on its own does not justify double the development cost if you're dealing with double the development cost for the PS3 and XBox 360 as you are for the Wii. On top of this, if we accept the 1/30th estimate for the development cost of Zack and Wiki in comparison to Gran Turismo, Zack and Wiki's current sales have a similar return on investment as Gran Turismo 5 will have if it breaks 10 Million units sold worldwide ...

I was thinking about something: When/if the Wii has all the support that the Ps2 had last gen, we will see sequels to those games that are already out on the Ps360 with downgraded in graphics! I mean, when did this ever happened? This gen is awsome!
The next FF will probably come out for the Wii IMO, so that would mark the first time two games of the main series do not come out to the same console during that generation. This gen is all about breaking paradigms!

I still think in the west the HD consoles will get the most support, but maybe Japanese 3rd parties will support Wii over PS360 in the future.

When you think of install base for HD 3rd party games you have to count 360+PS3+gaming PC because most 3rd parties will release on all 3 platforms.