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Socialist in the same way most of Europe both then and now is socialist. Welfare existed and he didn't dismantle the German healthcare system so yes technically it's not completely incorrect but if Hitler was socialist because of a handful of popular or almost universal left wing policies then so is the USA because of public education and food stamps



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If Hitler were born in our time, he would probably call his party the German Populist Party or something, and praise Putin and Trump. Goebbels would be a masterful Facebook and Twitter sower of fake news.

He presented himself as opposition was to Globalism and Internationalism and everything else that could be deemed degenerate or non-German. Communists and Jews fit right into that. Mind you, back then the Jewish people weren't about a Zionist state praised by Evangelicals, but were perceived instead as some sort of Globalist Elite.

In some ways, as well, he longed for a return to Germany's Imperial ambitions, so he shared a certain anti-English and anti-French sentiment. Socially, he was well into what we call right-wing nowadays. Economically, he was a totalitarian statist. Much like Le Pen, he would be 100% called a member of the far-right or a right-wing populist despite these statist leanings.

No one in their right mind would call him left-wing, by the way, except for die-hard anti-communist populists on the right. Even those obviously know they are lying, and on all likehood have positive sentiments toward Hitler and his ilk.



 

 

 

 

 

the-pi-guy said: 

Hitler was a monster because he was a racist nationalist, not because he was a socialist.  

There are Rascist Nationalists around today, but I am just wondering who of these are leaders or control the country...

... Yeah, I checked. I just don't know if there are any of those in the US. I just don't know... 😉



"National Socialist" translates to Nationalsozialistischen So "Nazi" for short.

The Nazis weren't capitalist. They seized private property, mandated extensive state control in the economy, and loathed trade with nations that didn't share goals of the Nazi ethnostate.

Socialists seize private property, mandate extensive control in the economy, and loathe the existence of capitalist market societies.

I don't think all socialists are Nazis - but there's an undeniable similarities between the two that make it clear that Nazis were/are socialists.



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fleischr said:

"National Socialist" translates to Nationalsozialistischen So "Nazi" for short.

The Nazis weren't capitalist. They seized private property, mandated extensive state control in the economy, and loathed trade with nations that didn't share goals of the Nazi ethnostate.

Socialists seize private property, mandate extensive control in the economy, and loathe the existence of capitalist market societies.

I don't think all socialists are Nazis - but there's an undeniable similarities between the two that make it clear that Nazis were/are socialists.

The word privatization was literally invented to describe Nazi economic policies. Then people still try to say they weren't capitalist 



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He was an uber nationalist populist and reflects the current ideals of the alt-right



"Did you know democrats were actually the racists?"



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
"Did you know democrats were actually the racists?"

They did gather up thousands of Japanese people and put them in camps because of their race during ww2.



fleischr said:

"National Socialist" translates to Nationalsozialistischen So "Nazi" for short.

The Nazis weren't capitalist. They seized private property, mandated extensive state control in the economy, and loathed trade with nations that didn't share goals of the Nazi ethnostate.

Socialists seize private property, mandate extensive control in the economy, and loathe the existence of capitalist market societies.

I don't think all socialists are Nazis - but there's an undeniable similarities between the two that make it clear that Nazis were/are socialists.

 

Names means nothing, only polarizing intentions. Socialist National is a term with a purpose: to create membership of the left and people of the center's workers to grow the strength of the party. Just the purpose, nothing more. And yet, the Nazis cultivated private enterprises and privatized masses (1930), expanded military force, spread injustice, false news and Nazi propaganda, the Aryan slogan of superiority, and so on. Nothing like socialism, actually different from most socialism applied in society. There is no nationalization of production assets, no attempts to equalize social life between people and reduce inequalities, the internationalism that socialism was known. There is similarity in the totalitarian question, above all. Until then, the military dictatorship in Chile and Argentina are similar and are notably of the extreme right while the socialism implanted until then is notably left.

Watch the video posted in firts page, it's a great explanation.



fleischr said:

"National Socialist" translates to Nationalsozialistischen So "Nazi" for short.

The Nazis weren't capitalist. They seized private property, mandated extensive state control in the economy, and loathed trade with nations that didn't share goals of the Nazi ethnostate.

Socialists seize private property, mandate extensive control in the economy, and loathe the existence of capitalist market societies.

I don't think all socialists are Nazis - but there's an undeniable similarities between the two that make it clear that Nazis were/are socialists.

The Nazis weren't the biggest advocates of free market and free trade but that didn't make them socialists or left leaning. the Words "socialist" and "worker"(A) in NSDAP weren't really more than camouflage.

Once the Nazis got in charge they destroyed the worker unions, the private property they seized were mostly owned by Jews or regim critics and often times they sold the seized property to germans, they even privatized firms who got aquired by the former german governments. The Nazis were pretty opportunistic in regards to the economy, they did whatever suited their goals the best.

You should really watch the second video I linked, it gives a good idea of the economic situation in germany during that time.