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Torillian on 29 October 2018
o_O.Q said:
Torillian said:

Saying that millions couldn't have been killed in concentration camps because how would they get rid of all the bodies seems like pretty direct holocaust denial. I would think that if you claim the number of deaths in the holocaust are vastly artificially inflated that is still called holocaust denial. 

i didn't realise that the term holocaust denial means any questioning of the details of the event

if that's the case then i retract what i said and he is indeed a holocaust denier

What would you consider to be the core definition of "the holocaust"? I don't think denying that millions were killed in concentration camps (y'know....the holocaust) is the same as questioning the details.



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o_O.Q on 29 October 2018
Torillian said:
o_O.Q said:

i didn't realise that the term holocaust denial means any questioning of the details of the event

if that's the case then i retract what i said and he is indeed a holocaust denier

What would you consider to be the core definition of "the holocaust"? I don't think denying that millions were killed in concentration camps (y'know....the holocaust) is the same as questioning the details.

 

SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

i didn't realise that the term holocaust denial means any questioning of the details of the event

if that's the case then i retract what i said and he is indeed a holocaust denier

It's not a matter of simply questioning part of it.  It's the fact that the "gas chamber" debate is the most widely used talking point by deniers.  Question it...sure, go for it.  Study it up.  Nothing wrong with that. But this is the one point they all harp on as their proof it didn't happen.  When they bring this one up, it's pretty much guaranteed they are a denier.

i retracted my statement and conceded that he is a holocaust denier, what else are you guys expecting me to say?



Torillian on 29 October 2018
o_O.Q said:
Torillian said:

What would you consider to be the core definition of "the holocaust"? I don't think denying that millions were killed in concentration camps (y'know....the holocaust) is the same as questioning the details.

 

SpokenTruth said:

It's not a matter of simply questioning part of it.  It's the fact that the "gas chamber" debate is the most widely used talking point by deniers.  Question it...sure, go for it.  Study it up.  Nothing wrong with that. But this is the one point they all harp on as their proof it didn't happen.  When they bring this one up, it's pretty much guaranteed they are a denier.

i retracted my statement and conceded that he is a holocaust denier, what else are you guys expecting me to say?

I'm questioning your equivocation of "denying that millions died in concentration camps" to "questioning of the details of the event". I'm legitimately curious what would your definition of the holocaust be for the aforementioned to be the details of the event rather than the core event itself. 



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o_O.Q on 29 October 2018
Torillian said:
o_O.Q said:

 

i retracted my statement and conceded that he is a holocaust denier, what else are you guys expecting me to say?

I'm questioning your equivocation of "denying that millions died in concentration camps" to "questioning of the details of the event". I'm legitimately curious what would your definition of the holocaust be for the aforementioned to be the details of the event rather than the core event itself. 

i actually didn't do that you can go back and look at my posts

what i said is that questioning certain aspects of an event is not the same as denying the whole event happened

i also said that i don't have an opinion here nor there with regards to the different aspects of the holocaust because tbh i'm ignorant when it comes to the holocaust as i have not done my own research into it that deeply



darkrulier on 29 October 2018

I consider myself a conservative and I really think that Crowder is a joke, especially in his "Change my mind" videos.