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JRPGfan said: 

America if you want to get rid of violence, start by limiting what guns/knives people can buy, and who can buy them.

I was with you until you made your own baseless claim.  Study after study have shown that guns make people safer, not less so.  Knives.... I know little of the stats.  But, limiting knife ownership is ridiculous on its face.



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I'll admit that video games lead to violence when the rest of America can come to admit that guns kill people.



Yerm said:
I'll admit that video games lead to violence when the rest of America can come to admit that guns kill people.

guns don't kill people. people kill people. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Yerm said:
I'll admit that video games lead to violence when the rest of America can come to admit that guns kill people.

guns don't kill people. people kill people. 

video games dont cause violence. people cause violence



Yerm said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

guns don't kill people. people kill people. 

video games dont cause violence. people cause violence

correct. i think we are on the same page here. 



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It's wild that people are literally confronted with a scientific study, and instead of reasonably taking it as such and at least reading through it before resisting its findings, they will just link to another study they didn't read that happens to say what they want it to.

I get that this isn't something anyone here wants to hear, but it's literally a scientific study. It's not someone who doesn't know what their talking about saying this. At least do the due diligence and know what YOU'RE talking about before you contest its findings. Look at the study and poke holes in how it was conducted or how it was reported if there are any. "I didn't get more aggressive so obviously this study is wrong" isn't a scientific statement.



ironmanDX said:
Mr Puggsly said:

We've been in the age of junk science for... decades.

Studies are conducted by people, people need funding for studies, people have ideologies.

People are parents who buy games for their children that they shouldn't be playing. People blame the games.

I can attest that I used to rage pretty hard when I was younger. I was just a kid playing games people bought me. I have a son. He's getting a switch.

I think most of us on this forum were exposed or had access to violent games, movies, etc. If you're in your early 20s or younger, you likely had access to violent media on the web your entire life without your parents really knowing.

I mean even if people don't buy mature games for your kids, what's stopping kids from watching a GTAV videos on YouTube? Not much, unless you're a helicopter parent which probably damages kids in other ways.

I'll end on this. My mom never bought me porn. But it never stopped me from finding stuff for jerking purposes.



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The responses here are expected, but it's not something to take defensively as a gamer, imho.

There's been studies linking child aggression with seeing aggressive behaviors since before the 1900s.

The reason you will see "there's no link with a and b" is because there hasn't been sufficient studies. Not because the link doesn't exist. Even then, it's almost impossible to prove causality so all that can be stated is the link.

But there's also been studies on desensitization of violence (in particular, people didn't know they were seeing real deaths on screen because of all the violence they were used to seeing in media) and again, the link of acting out aggressively after witnessing aggressive behavior in children. Actually pretty old news. Video games are just a recent phenomenon (yeah 30 years old, but still).

I personally believe nurture is a much bigger factor than nature when it comes to how a person turns out (socioeconomic status, victims of abuse are more likely to abuse others, etc.) That's not a slight on the gaming community. It's human nature.

Which is why little kids shouldn't be playing games where they are blowing people heads off or killing hookers. Nothing mind blowing here.



spemanig said:

It's wild that people are literally confronted with a scientific study, and instead of reasonably taking it as such and at least reading through it before resisting its findings, they will just link to another study they didn't read that happens to say what they want it to.

I get that this isn't something anyone here wants to hear, but it's literally a scientific study. It's not someone who doesn't know what their talking about saying this. At least do the due diligence and know what YOU'RE talking about before you contest its findings. Look at the study and poke holes in how it was conducted or how it was reported if there are any. "I didn't get more aggressive so obviously this study is wrong" isn't a scientific statement.

Because funding can make a mockery of science.
Have you never watched "Thank you for smokeing" ?

Science that isnt objective, isnt really science, if the results can be whatever whoever is funding you, want it to turn out to be.
Hence all the idiots that still dont believe in global warming (an exsample) (because petrol, has scientists bought who conclude silly things)

For some reason, the american politicians WANT to claim that videogames lead to violence.
So they set out to prove it..... and it proves nothing imo.

Indipendent studies have so often claimed the oppersite, that this videogames leads to violence thingy is like some kinda warped myth by now.
Thats why I said what I said.

Theres obvious no real conclusive evidence one way or other, if studies can vary so much in their conclusions.
(I know you ll say the same for global warming, but there its like 99% of scientist vs 1% that work for petrol)

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spemanig said:

It's wild that people are literally confronted with a scientific study, and instead of reasonably taking it as such and at least reading through it before resisting its findings, they will just link to another study they didn't read that happens to say what they want it to.

I get that this isn't something anyone here wants to hear, but it's literally a scientific study. It's not someone who doesn't know what their talking about saying this. At least do the due diligence and know what YOU'RE talking about before you contest its findings. Look at the study and poke holes in how it was conducted or how it was reported if there are any. "I didn't get more aggressive so obviously this study is wrong" isn't a scientific statement.

I agree with you and  I was just looking through the article to find the methods and tools used when conducting this research, but I couldn't find anything in the articles which is kind of annoying as I find it interesting.