To the folks talking about 3P support on Wii...

10 of the top 40 titles in the UK this week were third-party Wii games. That's not 10 of the top 40 Wii games, but 10 of the top 40 games overall. In comparison only two first-party Wii games were on the list... MK and Wii Play.

360 and PS3 had 7 and 4 third party games in the top 40, respectively.

So the third party support is here, and it is succeeding. Wake up.

RedArmia said: libellule said: Oyvoyvoyv said: Wii up 25K to 140K Ps3 down 19K to 98K X360 down 9K to 66K   Fixed  wow what a pathetic fanboy you are.

 LOLLLLLLLL

u are making me laugh so much !!!

ZenfoldorVGI said: BornFirst. said: akuma587 said: The_vagabond7 said: Sony domination starts with GTAIV now!! Then it will begin with MGS4!! After that Sony domination will begin with FFXIII maybe, or GT5 whichever comes first gets to start Sony domination! But the loser shouldn't fret for it gets to begin Sony Domination! I think their is a difference between saying PS3 sales will rise again due to a big game coming out, an obvious assumption, especially with a game as big as GTA4, and saying that Sony domination will start at some point. In my book Nintendodomination won't begin until they actually get some third-party support. I so agree with that last statement its not even funny, good sales all round i think. Well, your on a site that deals with hardware sales.   Then, you say that Nintendo's domination of the market shouldn't be based on sales, but instead, someones opinion of the quality of Nintendo's 3rd party support. No mention given to the DS, either. Forget about it.   In reply to a topic about sales that didn't go the way you wanted them to go.       By your logic, 360 domination is happening every week.   So, do you agree with your own logic?   Is the 360 dominating every week? Are we in 360domination? Yes or no?

 I thin hardware wise nintendo is doing fantastically, and even when it come to software in regards to sales, but i do not believe nintendo are dominating the industry till they turns the industry on thier side, and slowly but surely its doing it, but very very slowly. When 3rd party devs starts giving nintendo more attention than stupid mini games or PS2 ports then nintendo's dominition of this industry will be set and declared by me. 

 

libellule said: RedArmia said: libellule said: Oyvoyvoyv said: Wii up 25K to 140K Ps3 down 19K to 98K X360 down 9K to 66K   Fixed wow what a pathetic fanboy you are.   LOLLLLLLLL u are making me laugh so much !!!

 @Red..This is a sales site, we need to be correct =p.

Good job libellule :).

Erik Aston said: To the folks talking about 3P support on Wii... 10 of the top 40 titles in the UK this week were third-party Wii games. That's not 10 of the top 40 Wii games, but 10 of the top 40 games overall. In comparison only two first-party Wii games were on the list... MK and Wii Play. 360 and PS3 had 7 and 4 third party games in the top 40, respectively. So the third party support is here, and it is succeeding. Wake up.

I only counted 9, those games are..

1		1			GRAN TURISMO 5: PROLOGUE	PS3	SONY COMPUTER ENT.	SONY COMPUTER ENT.
3		2			MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES	WII	SEGA	SEGA
5		3			PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008	WII	KONAMI	KONAMI
2		4			TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2	XB360	RED STORM	UBISOFT
7		5			WII PLAY	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
6		6			DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
4		7			TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2	PS3	RED STORM	UBISOFT
-		8			CONDEMNED 2	XB360	SEGA	SEGA
11		9			VIKING: BATTLE FOR ASGARD	XB360	SEGA	SEGA
9		10			MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES	DS	SEGA	SEGA
8		11			CARNIVAL: FUNFAIR GAMES	WII	2KPLAY	TAKE 2
26		12			GAME PARTY	WII	MIDWAY	MIDWAY
14		13			COOKING MAMA 2	DS	505 GAMES	505 GAMES
15		14			THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD 2 & 3 RETURN	WII	SEGA	SEGA
10		15			SEGA SUPERSTARS TENNIS	WII	SEGA	SEGA
-		16			DARK SECTOR	XB360	D3P	D3P
17		17			MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
-		18			CONDEMNED 2	PS3	SEGA	SEGA
16		19			CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE	PS3	ACTIVISION	ACTIVISION
18		20			NEW SUPER MARIO BROS.	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
27		21			IMAGINE: BABIES	DS	GAMES FOR EVERYONE	UBISOFT
29		22			VIKING: BATTLE FOR ASGARD	PS3	SEGA	SEGA
12		23			COMMAND & CONQUER 3: KANE'S WRATH	PC	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
24		24			GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK	XB360	REDOCTANE	ACTIVISION
-		25			DARK SECTOR	PS3	D3P	D3P
23		26			GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK	WII	REDOCTANE	ACTIVISION
20		27			GOD OF WAR: CHAINS OF OLYMPUS	PSP	SONY COMPUTER ENT.	SONY COMPUTER ENT.
28		28			SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS	WII	SEGA	SEGA
21		29			ARMY OF TWO	XB360	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
19		30			CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE	XB360	ACTIVISION	ACTIVISION
-		31			42 ALL-TIME CLASSICS	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
31		32			PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008	PSP	KONAMI	KONAMI
22		33			GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK	PS2	REDOCTANE	ACTIVISION
35		34			SIGHT TRAINING	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
37		35			HALO 3	XB360	MICROSOFT	MICROSOFT
40		36			MARIO KART DS	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
34		37			SUPER MONKEY BALL: BANANA BLITZ	WII	SEGA	SEGA
25		38			BULLY: SCHOLARSHIP EDITION	XB360	ROCKSTAR	TAKE 2
-		39			FOOTBALL MANAGER 2008	PC	SEGA	SEGA
-		40			THE SIMS 2: FREETIME	PC	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS

Notice a pattern here?

@Zenfolder Even if you were considering success strictly in third party support terms, i'd say the the xbox is not dominating because while it has third party support and great third party games, it does not have a large variety of games from different genres. Having this well varied lineup is what made the the ps2 a ridiculous success (among other things, ofcourse), and for the time being I don't see this well rounded third party support on the Wii. This, in my opinion, is needed before any ps2-esque domination can occur. Once third party devs leave the shallow end of the Wii pool and take a little risk i think this could definately change.

 

amerstsu, he said THIS week xD and you post last week in UK

ameratsu said: I only counted 9, those games are.. 1 1     GRAN TURISMO 5: PROLOGUE PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT. 3 2     MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES WII SEGA SEGA 5 3     PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008 WII KONAMI KONAMI 2 4     TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2 XB360 RED STORM UBISOFT 7 5     WII PLAY WII NINTENDO NINTENDO 6 6     DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 4 7     TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2 PS3 RED STORM UBISOFT - 8     CONDEMNED 2 XB360 SEGA SEGA 11 9     VIKING: BATTLE FOR ASGARD XB360 SEGA SEGA 9 10     MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES DS SEGA SEGA 8 11     CARNIVAL: FUNFAIR GAMES WII 2KPLAY TAKE 2 26 12     GAME PARTY WII MIDWAY MIDWAY 14 13     COOKING MAMA 2 DS 505 GAMES 505 GAMES 15 14     THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD 2 & 3 RETURN WII SEGA SEGA 10 15     SEGA SUPERSTARS TENNIS WII SEGA SEGA - 16     DARK SECTOR XB360 D3P D3P 17 17     MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA DS NINTENDO NINTENDO - 18     CONDEMNED 2 PS3 SEGA SEGA 16 19     CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE PS3 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION 18 20     NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 27 21     IMAGINE: BABIES DS GAMES FOR EVERYONE UBISOFT 29 22     VIKING: BATTLE FOR ASGARD PS3 SEGA SEGA 12 23     COMMAND & CONQUER 3: KANE'S WRATH PC EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS 24 24     GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK XB360 REDOCTANE ACTIVISION - 25     DARK SECTOR PS3 D3P D3P 23 26     GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK WII REDOCTANE ACTIVISION 20 27     GOD OF WAR: CHAINS OF OLYMPUS PSP SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT. 28 28     SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS WII SEGA SEGA 21 29     ARMY OF TWO XB360 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS 19 30     CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE XB360 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION - 31     42 ALL-TIME CLASSICS DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 31 32     PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008 PSP KONAMI KONAMI 22 33     GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK PS2 REDOCTANE ACTIVISION 35 34     SIGHT TRAINING DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 37 35     HALO 3 XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT 40 36     MARIO KART DS DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 34 37     SUPER MONKEY BALL: BANANA BLITZ WII SEGA SEGA 25 38     BULLY: SCHOLARSHIP EDITION XB360 ROCKSTAR TAKE 2 - 39     FOOTBALL MANAGER 2008 PC SEGA SEGA - 40     THE SIMS 2: FREETIME PC EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS

Well I don't really see a pattern, but I see a whole bunch of Sega games.

-		1			MARIO KART WII	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
1		2			GRAN TURISMO 5: PROLOGUE	PS3	SONY COMPUTER ENT.	SONY COMPUTER ENT.
2		3			MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES	WII	SEGA	SEGA
5		4			WII PLAY	WII	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
3		5			PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008	WII	KONAMI	KONAMI
11		6			CARNIVAL: FUNFAIR GAMES	WII	2KPLAY	TAKE 2
6		7			DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
4		8			TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2	XB360	RED STORM	UBISOFT
12		9			GAME PARTY	WII	MIDWAY	MIDWAY
10		10			MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES	DS	SEGA	SEGA
8		11			CONDEMNED 2	XB360	SEGA	SEGA
15		12			SEGA SUPERSTARS TENNIS	WII	SEGA	SEGA
7		13			TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2	PS3	RED STORM	UBISOFT
13		14			COOKING MAMA 2	DS	505 GAMES	505 GAMES
21		15			IMAGINE: BABIES	DS	GAMES FOR EVERYONE	UBISOFT
18		16			CONDEMNED 2	PS3	SEGA	SEGA
19		17			CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE	PS3	ACTIVISION	ACTIVISION
16		18			DARK SECTOR	XB360	D3P	D3P
17		19			MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
9		20			VIKING: BATTLE FOR ASGARD	XB360	SEGA	SEGA
20		21			NEW SUPER MARIO BROS.	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
14		22			THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD 2 & 3 RETURN	WII	SEGA	SEGA
30		23			CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE	XB360	ACTIVISION	ACTIVISION
-		24			ASSASSIN'S CREED	PC	UBISOFT	UBISOFT
28		25			SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS	WII	SEGA	SEGA
25		26			DARK SECTOR	PS3	D3P	D3P
26		27			GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK	WII	REDOCTANE	ACTIVISION
36		28			MARIO KART DS	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
24		29			GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK	XB360	REDOCTANE	ACTIVISION
31		30			42 ALL-TIME CLASSICS	DS	NINTENDO	NINTENDO
-		31			IMAGINE: FASHION DESIGNER	DS	GAMES FOR EVERYONE	UBISOFT
-		32			BABY PALS	DS	THQ	THQ
32		33			PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008	PSP	KONAMI	KONAMI
35		34			HALO 3	XB360	MICROSOFT	MICROSOFT
39		35			FOOTBALL MANAGER 2008	PC	SEGA	SEGA
-		36			SOLITAIRE: ULTIMATE COLLECTION	DS	DEEP SILVER	KOCH MEDIA
-		37			RAYMAN RAVING RABBIDS 2	WII	UBISOFT	UBISOFT
29		38			ARMY OF TWO	XB360	EA GAMES	ELECTRONIC ARTS
33		39			GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK	PS2	REDOCTANE	ACTIVISION
37		40			SUPER MONKEY BALL: BANANA BLITZ	WII	SEGA	SEGA

I see 10 third party.

darkjonnyx said: amerstsu, he said THIS week xD and you post last week in UK

Yeah, that was pretty crazy.  Like I made a mistake or something :) 

 

ameratsu said: Erik Aston said: To the folks talking about 3P support on Wii... 10 of the top 40 titles in the UK this week were third-party Wii games. That's not 10 of the top 40 Wii games, but 10 of the top 40 games overall. In comparison only two first-party Wii games were on the list... MK and Wii Play. 360 and PS3 had 7 and 4 third party games in the top 40, respectively. So the third party support is here, and it is succeeding. Wake up. I only counted 9, those games are.. 1 1     GRAN TURISMO 5: PROLOGUE PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT. 3 2     MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES WII SEGA SEGA 5 3     PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008 WII KONAMI KONAMI 2 4     TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2 XB360 RED STORM UBISOFT 7 5     WII PLAY WII NINTENDO NINTENDO 6 6     DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 4 7     TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 2 PS3 RED STORM UBISOFT - 8     CONDEMNED 2 XB360 SEGA SEGA 11 9     VIKING: BATTLE FOR ASGARD XB360 SEGA SEGA 9 10     MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES DS SEGA SEGA 8 11     CARNIVAL: FUNFAIR GAMES WII 2KPLAY TAKE 2 26 12     GAME PARTY WII MIDWAY MIDWAY 14 13     COOKING MAMA 2 DS 505 GAMES 505 GAMES 15 14     THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD 2 & 3 RETURN WII SEGA SEGA 10 15     SEGA SUPERSTARS TENNIS WII SEGA SEGA - 16     DARK SECTOR XB360 D3P D3P 17 17     MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA DS NINTENDO NINTENDO - 18     CONDEMNED 2 PS3 SEGA SEGA 16 19     CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE PS3 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION 18 20     NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 27 21     IMAGINE: BABIES DS GAMES FOR EVERYONE UBISOFT 29 22     VIKING: BATTLE FOR ASGARD PS3 SEGA SEGA 12 23     COMMAND & CONQUER 3: KANE'S WRATH PC EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS 24 24     GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK XB360 REDOCTANE ACTIVISION - 25     DARK SECTOR PS3 D3P D3P 23 26     GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK WII REDOCTANE ACTIVISION 20 27     GOD OF WAR: CHAINS OF OLYMPUS PSP SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT. 28 28     SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS WII SEGA SEGA 21 29     ARMY OF TWO XB360 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS 19 30     CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE XB360 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION - 31     42 ALL-TIME CLASSICS DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 31 32     PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008 PSP KONAMI KONAMI 22 33     GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK PS2 REDOCTANE ACTIVISION 35 34     SIGHT TRAINING DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 37 35     HALO 3 XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT 40 36     MARIO KART DS DS NINTENDO NINTENDO 34 37     SUPER MONKEY BALL: BNANA BLITZ WII SEGA SEGA 25 38     BULLY: SCHOLARSHIP EDITION XB360 ROCKSTAR TAKE 2 - 39     FOOTBALL MANAGER 2008 PC SEGA SEGA - 40     THE SIMS 2: FREETIME PC EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS @Zenfolder Even if you were considering success strictly in third party support terms, i'd say the the xbox is not dominating because while it has third party support and great third party games, it does not have a large variety of games from different genres. Having this well varied lineup is what made the the ps2 a ridiculous success (among other things, ofcourse), and for the time being I don't see this well rounded third party support on the Wii. This, in my opinion, is needed before any ps2-esque domination can occur. Once third party devs leave the shallow end of the Wii pool and take a little risk i think this could definately change.

What about the DS though?

 

Also, what I find repugnant about the "3rd party support" argument is this:

 

1. It's cherrypicking the one thing Nintendo isn't leading in with its home console(though it is leading with its portable by way more than enough to be considered dominating) is (of course) used to dismiss "Nintendomination."

2. It totally discredits the actual console support from first and second party, which have up until this point, imo, made the Wii the best console so far this generation.

 

 

 

It's like, if Nintendo had 3rd party support, there would be 1 or 2 guys who would say,

 

"Meh, I don't consider it Nintendomnation, until the Wii has the best Metal Gear Solid and Halo games available. I wonder which console has those, cause that would truely be the dominating force."