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LudicrousSpeed said:
SJW will be the death of ‘murica. Racist idiots on one side, perpetually butthurt weaklings on the other.

 Identitarians on both the far right and left. Both are just as bad.



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thismeintiel said:
Chris Hu said:

Its a well known fact that Alex Jones is trans and homophobic but your the guy that thinks that the Nazi's where socialist so I'm not going argue with you.  But since you lack basic knowledge about the Nazi's read this:

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

Just because you have a (false) romantized view of socialism, doesn't make the Nazis any less Socialist. In the end, it all boils down to one thing, Fascism. Because as the government grabs more control, man yearns to be free. And there's only one way to continue your objectives, force with the excuse that it what is good for the motherland. Which is why so many on the left are for shutting up people they deem to use "hate speech," as well as try to justify the tactics of Antifa, who are actual fascists themselves.

Yep, nazism is just nationalistic socialism. Basically, any of the countries that have tried actual socialism become one party authoritarian states that are nationalistic. They have to around capitalist counties that give truth to the lie. Take North Korea, Russia or China as examples. 



thismeintiel said:
Chris Hu said:

Its a well known fact that Alex Jones is trans and homophobic but your the guy that thinks that the Nazi's where socialist so I'm not going argue with you.  But since you lack basic knowledge about the Nazi's read this:

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

Just because you have a (false) romantized view of socialism, doesn't make the Nazis any less Socialist. In the end, it all boils down to one thing, Fascism. Because as the government grabs more control, man yearns to be free. And there's only one way to continue your objectives, force with the excuse that it what is good for the motherland. Which is why so many on the left are for shutting up people they deem to use "hate speech," as well as try to justify the tactics of Antifa, who are actual fascists themselves.

If you believe that the Nazi's where socialist then you have no idea what socialism actually is.  I suggest you take a remedial class of politics 101.  Also actually read the article I linked and if  you can't comprehend it ask for some help from somebody that actually is knowledgeable about politics not some right winger that is clueless about politics.



Aeolus451 said:
thismeintiel said:

Just because you have a (false) romantized view of socialism, doesn't make the Nazis any less Socialist. In the end, it all boils down to one thing, Fascism. Because as the government grabs more control, man yearns to be free. And there's only one way to continue your objectives, force with the excuse that it what is good for the motherland. Which is why so many on the left are for shutting up people they deem to use "hate speech," as well as try to justify the tactics of Antifa, who are actual fascists themselves.

Yep, nazism is just nationalistic socialism. Basically, any of the countries that have tried actual socialism become one party authoritarian states that are nationalistic. They have to around capitalist counties that give truth to the lie. Take North Korea, Russia or China as examples. 

Again actually read the article I posted and come back at me and tell me what is socialist about that.  People that believe that the Nazi where socialist have no idea what socialism actually is. 



He's quitting social media entirely now. Got chased away like a dog by the SJWs that he wanted to be friends with so much. Unfortunately he learned nothing - still accusing everybody else of being unwoke while being harassed for being unwoke.

Buuuuuuuuuut … I’m done with social media... I mean, the people who are all over the various Mastodon instances made it really clear that I wasn’t welcome there... and it seems as if I was just unwelcome because … I’m me? I guess? Like, I know that I’m not a transphobe, but holy shit that lie just won’t die, and right now as I am writing this, someone at Mastodon is telling me that I am, because people said so, and I should apologize to them.

http://wilwheaton.net/2018/08/the-world-is-a-terrible-place-right-now-and-thats-largely-because-it-is-what-we-make-it/



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SpokenTruth said:
Chris Hu said:

Again actually read the article I posted and come back at me and tell me what is socialist about that.  People that believe that the Nazi where socialist have no idea what socialism actually is. 

Forget it, Chris.   They call themselves socialist so they must be socialist.  Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic....and a republic...of the people.  Right?

 Oh so like liberals believing in liberalism?

Nazis were national socialists because it's what that political party ran on to gain power and it's what galvanized the people behind him. There's no reason to doubt he would have followed thru on some kind of socialism given he followed thru on his rhetoric about jews. 



Chris Hu said:
o_O.Q said:

"despite the fact that he is extreme tans and homophobic"

any evidence for that?

and lets be real here, not calling a man with a penis a woman is now considered transphobia

Its a well known fact that Alex Jones is trans and homophobic but your the guy that thinks that the Nazi's where socialist so I'm not going argue with you.  But since you lack basic knowledge about the Nazi's read this:

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

"Its a well known fact that Alex Jones is trans and homophobic"

lol so you can't provide anything to substantiate your claims as usual?

 

"but your the guy that thinks that the Nazi's where socialist"

because the vast majority of their policies were socialist policies... which is a fact... a fact that you have agreed on already

that link you have posted does not mention the fact that the nazis still controlled those businesses... um... can you tell me whether government control of means of production is capitalist or socialist?

besides that all you have to claim that they were capitalist is what? that they were fans of ford? lmao

what i will say is that its funny to me how you've allowed the cognitive dissonance to warp your perception of reality on this issue so wildly

it truly is a sight to behold



SpokenTruth said:
Chris Hu said:

Again actually read the article I posted and come back at me and tell me what is socialist about that.  People that believe that the Nazi where socialist have no idea what socialism actually is. 

Forget it, Chris.   They call themselves socialist so they must be socialist.  Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic....and a republic...of the people.  Right?

no they were socialist because the vast majority of their policies were socialist policies

even the businesses that chris brings up that supposedly became private were controlled by the government or in other words in nazi germany the government controlled the means of production

and i won't bring up all the other policies again because honestly that's been played to death



Each time any form of socialism, usually but not necessarily a marxist-leninist one, ends up in a totalitarianism, often causing bloodbaths too, socialists all around the world start singing in chorus "Bu-bu-but that wasn't TRUE socialism". Each time someone tells marxist socialists that Northern European social democracy instead works quite well, and without killing people, BTW, they get into an even deeper denial. Can we trust them anymore to define "socialism"?



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Aeolus451 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Forget it, Chris.   They call themselves socialist so they must be socialist.  Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic....and a republic...of the people.  Right?

 Oh so like liberals believing in liberalism?

Nazis were national socialists because it's what that political party ran on to gain power and it's what galvanized the people behind him. There's no reason to doubt he would have followed thru on some kind of socialism given he followed thru on his rhetoric about jews. 

And like conservatives believing in conservation.  Now you're getting it! 

Wait, "would have"?  The Nazis were in power for over a decade.  If they didn't make moves toward what you are calling "socialism" in that time, they weren't gonna.  I mean seriously you'd be the first person to say the Nazis weren't go-getters. 



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