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Yes | 63 | 36.21% | |
No | 111 | 63.79% | |
Total: | 174 |
God - as a metaphor for the unknown - is very real. However, anthropomorphosizing 'the unknown' as a figure with knowable, interpretable motives is dangerous and the opposite of logical.
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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
thank you dear!! I've always been a science person and I have a degree in it, and most of my scientist colleagues/friends are religious too, and that includes doctors and microbiologists |
First bolded: So you have always been a science person but do not use it to come to a logical conclusion or have a logical understanding of what religion is or can be,you choose to disconnect them and the rest of your comment has nothing to do with science.
Sec bolded: How do you even know that?Robots today can simulate feelings, and simulated free will are multiple options of behaviour that a similation could choose between depending the situation and if that technology improves to the point it feels real for those robots then where lies the difference?
Third bolded: All the lessons that exist in the bible can be achieved from being a logical thinking good human being but if you need the bible for that then you better use it i would say.(And i mean the good lessons ,not the negative ones)
Runa216 said: God - as a metaphor for the unknown - is very real. However, anthropomorphosizing 'the unknown' as a figure with knowable, interpretable motives is dangerous and the opposite of logical. |
no one claims to be able to understand what God is, God is the unimaginable
it is not illogical when there are pure good intentions, it is illogical people that can make it look dangerous, same applies to science, meant to save lives, but some use it to kill
don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
no one claims to be able to understand what God is, God is the unimaginable |
yes they do, that's literally the entire foundational basis of every holy book in the history of humankind. that's the purpose of religion as a whole.
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SpokenTruth said:
Then what are the Abrahamic religions and their sacred texts if nothing but an anthropomorphization, motive interpreter and all around attempt to "know" God? He made man in his image? God's will? If God is 'unknowable' then why religion at all? |
Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to say. People use God as a filler for everything they don't understand or is beyond our grasp. since something is unknowable or paradoxical, the 'god did it' bandage smoothes it over. as a metaphor for the unknown, I get the concept of 'god'. the issue is that people literally start with 'we don't know, so god did it, which means I now know because I know god'. IT's the opposite of logical.
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Runa216 said:
yes they do, that's literally the entire foundational basis of every holy book in the history of humankind. that's the purpose of religion as a whole. |
the purpose of religion is not to understand God, it is a guidance from God on how to live and what to appreciate in the life given to us, a spiritual identity that benefits ourselves and guides us to help others
religion and priests exist to interpret God's guidance and give it to people, not understand God himself
at least in Christianity, this is very clear
16 I tried to understand all that happens on earth. I saw how busy people are, working day and night and hardly ever sleeping. 17 I also saw all that God has done. Nobody can understand what God does here on earth. No matter how hard people try to understand it, they cannot. Even if wise people say they understand, they cannot; no one can really understand it.
Isaiah 55:8-9
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways
And My thoughts than your thoughts.
“Behold, God is exalted, and we do not know Him;
The number of His years is unsearchable.
Who does great and unsearchable things,
Wonders without number.
“Can you discover the depths of God?
Can you discover the limits of the Almighty?
don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
the purpose of religion is not to understand God, it is a guidance from God on how to live and what to appreciate in the life given to us, a spiritual identity that benefits ourselves and guides us to help others Ecclesiastes 8:16-1716 I tried to understand all that happens on earth. I saw how busy people are, working day and night and hardly ever sleeping. 17 I also saw all that God has done. Nobody can understand what God does here on earth. No matter how hard people try to understand it, they cannot. Even if wise people say they understand, they cannot; no one can really understand it. " data-hasqtip="0" aria-describedby="qtip-0">Isaiah 55:8-9 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Tools
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“Can you discover the depths of God? |
How can we derive guidance from something that we don't understand? And why take guidance from someone whose motivation we don't know? Why worship something we don't understand? Why even trust it?
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I do not but I understand most religions and their intentions (I don't know all of them) and hence don't dislike them.
I'm a science guy but I won't go as far as others and say that is the contrary to being religious or believing anything. In fact, lots of well known and big scientists who really contribute to our knowledge say there is something we don't understand and it could simply be described as God until we understand anything about it (if we ever do that is).
People who personalize God don't understand the theory behind it. That's also why questions like "why should I worship?" do not make any sense and are just general conversation but nothing beyond and meaningful.
RolStoppable said:
Because Donald J. Trump tells us what we want to hear. |
I don't speak Orange.
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