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Right now for the Switch hardware that we currently have, all Nintendo has to focus on is getting Japanese and mid range publishers / developers.

They have always had dicey relationship with EA and other major Western third parties besides UBI Soft, plus logically if the third party wanted to port the majority of their titles to the Switch it is doable short of them building their game exclusively with 4K or some other high end tech in mind. As successful as the Switch is globally there are plenty of ways to support it whether it is with a port or a separate team that works on lower spec games that could be released on it. However with new hardware a year or two away, most won't bother to invest that heavily in learning or adapting to aging tech.

Japan development for better or worse is much more compact and used to tighter budgets, plus globally while not in the same realm as CoD or FIFA they have a strong audience who as we have seen with the Switch and PS4 this generation can be a force to move products.



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OdinHades said:
None of these solutions is worth the effort. I know you don't want to hear it, but the obvious and in my opinion best solution is: Fuck AAA third parties. Nintendo doesn't need them, the Switch doesn't need to seller better than PlayStation, everything is fine and dandy. There is no reason for Nintendo to shell out huge amounts of money when they are perfectly fine with the money made from their own games and indies, who really seem to love the Switch.
Chrizum said:
Solution 4: buy a PS4. Who needs third parties on Switch? Nintendo doesn't want them, fans don't want them, and third parties don't want to be there. People are creating a problem out of nothing.

 

Nonsense. The more games, the better. I absolutely loved Doom 2016 on Switch.



OdinHades said:
None of these solutions is worth the effort. I know you don't want to hear it, but the obvious and in my opinion best solution is: Fuck AAA third parties. Nintendo doesn't need them, the Switch doesn't need to seller better than PlayStation, everything is fine and dandy. There is no reason for Nintendo to shell out huge amounts of money when they are perfectly fine with the money made from their own games and indies, who really seem to love the Switch.

I agree.  Getting AAA third parties to the Switch is not the problem.  AAA third parties ARE the problem.  

I see AAA third parties doing very little to advance gaming.  Usually surprise hits come from small/medium sized studios trying something new like Octopath Traveler.  I don't want the same old games with a bigger budget.  I want actual new experiences, even if that means the games have a smaller budget.  I'd rather have lots of games from small/medium sized studios than a few big budget games from really large studios.  Switch third party is headed in the right direction.



My suggestion is the exact same as it was before Switch launched:

Don't bother. Bring your 3DS exclusive content to Switch and give Switch, like 3DS, it's own market. Grow the market instead of crowding it.



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OdinHades said:

I know you don't want to hear it, but the obvious and in my opinion best solution is: Fuck AAA third parties.

Yes, that's why you got approved.



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6. Nintendo pays 3rd parites to not make their crappy AAA games for their console.



Whit all due respect for switch, there are just two solution for switch in this front.

1. Make powefull hardware and flexible software for ports that are easy to make and have good quality.

2. Prove that your console can move third party software like the other 2, and not just exclusives.



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KLAMarine said:
OdinHades said:
None of these solutions is worth the effort. I know you don't want to hear it, but the obvious and in my opinion best solution is: Fuck AAA third parties. Nintendo doesn't need them, the Switch doesn't need to seller better than PlayStation, everything is fine and dandy. There is no reason for Nintendo to shell out huge amounts of money when they are perfectly fine with the money made from their own games and indies, who really seem to love the Switch.
Chrizum said:
Solution 4: buy a PS4. Who needs third parties on Switch? Nintendo doesn't want them, fans don't want them, and third parties don't want to be there. People are creating a problem out of nothing.

 

Nonsense. The more games, the better. I absolutely loved Doom 2016 on Switch.

I understand your point of view, but ultimately, not a lot of people on Switch were interested in Doom. I reckon that's the case for many more third party games, Switch just has a wholly different demographic than PS4. I don't see why Nintendo or third parties would need to make all kinds of crazy decisions in order to satisfy the few.

Cater to the more specific taste of the Switch crowd and you will find success as a third party, but it's often the unsafe route for them and Nintendo couldn't care less. Most gamers would just as gladly play third party games on a different system anyway.



Chrizum said:
KLAMarine said:

 

Nonsense. The more games, the better. I absolutely loved Doom 2016 on Switch.

I understand your point of view, but ultimately, not a lot of people on Switch were interested in Doom. I reckon that's the case for many more third party games, Switch just has a wholly different demographic than PS4. I don't see why Nintendo or third parties would need to make all kinds of crazy decisions in order to satisfy the few.

Cater to the more specific taste of the Switch crowd and you will find success as a third party, but it's often the unsafe route for them and Nintendo couldn't care less. Most gamers would just as gladly play third party games on a different system anyway.

I prefer to take Bethesda's word rather than this sites numbers, they said they are happy with their games performance on Switch and that they plan to continue supporting it.



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Switch should just get whatever AAA Third Party games that can reasonably run on it. Games like...

Dragon Quest Builders
DBFighterZ
Okami HD
Tales of Vesperia Remastered
Disgaea 1
Dark Souls Remastered
South Park: The Fractured Butt Whole
Ys VIII
Crash N'Sane Trilogy

What do all these games have in common? They are either last gen remasters or they use an art style that isn't graphically demanding. Unlike Doom or Wolfenstein these Switch games didn't need massive graphics downgrades to fit on Switch. These are the 3rd party games that Switch owners will buy, because they know these games will run fine on their hybrid console of choice.