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Forums - Sales Discussion - Nintendo Financial Results: Switch sales top 19.67m, Mario Tennis 1.38m, DK TF 1.4m, more

Soundwave on 31 July 2018
Nautilus said:
Soundwave said:

They're gonna need to have a few 3rd parties step up and help, they can't always do it alone and Switch is not like the Wii/DS where the "casual" games are neccessarily causes large hardware spikes. They sell ok, like B-tier Nintendo IP but that's about it, otherwise Labo should've caused a nice spike in Switch sales. 

Switch needs other devs to pitch in and help more often than what its getting now and Nintendo should push harder for better relationships. They've got a good system here that's selling quite well overall and the demographics are older for it and leaning more core friendly, there's no reason why non-Nintendo software can't find success here, you're already seeing it with Octopath Traveller and Hollow Knight and other titles doing better than expected.

Labo was too much something out of the blue to be really considered casual friendly.It plays to a niche, which obviously worked out well, given the numbers.Mario Party is way more of a casual game than Labo ever will be, and has much more of an universal appeal.We will see how it will eventually play out, but given the Switch effect, I expect big numbers for this game(5 million+) LT.

And about the third party stuff, yeah i agree completely.But its something thats out of Nintendo hands.Having said that, I do expect things to massively improve late this year/2019, but then again, it will be mostly japanese support and AA games that will improve, not the AAA stuff that will suddenly start appearing on the system.

They need more AA stuff, if they're not getting it they should just pay outright for projects from third parties. A company like Konami likely would pony up a Castlevania or even Metal Gear game at this point if Nintendo offered to pay for development. Outsourcing is one way to go. 



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Nautilus on 31 July 2018
Soundwave said:
Nautilus said:

Labo was too much something out of the blue to be really considered casual friendly.It plays to a niche, which obviously worked out well, given the numbers.Mario Party is way more of a casual game than Labo ever will be, and has much more of an universal appeal.We will see how it will eventually play out, but given the Switch effect, I expect big numbers for this game(5 million+) LT.

And about the third party stuff, yeah i agree completely.But its something thats out of Nintendo hands.Having said that, I do expect things to massively improve late this year/2019, but then again, it will be mostly japanese support and AA games that will improve, not the AAA stuff that will suddenly start appearing on the system.

They need more AA stuff, if they're not getting it they should just pay outright for projects from third parties. A company like Konami likely would pony up a Castlevania or even Metal Gear game at this point if Nintendo offered to pay for development. Outsourcing is one way to go. 

Yeah, but there is only so much money in the world.But the biggest problem is talent.Nintendo has so much talent to give to outsorces like those, so you cant outsorce like crazy.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

KBG29 on 31 July 2018

Not too impressive. This holiday is going to be very telling of the future of the Switch. I still think the lack of a 4G option, and non gaming priority functions is going stop this thing before it really gets started. The lack of 4G will be even more prominent once their online service launches. What good is a Online Gaming service, on an Unconnected Mobile device?

At any rate, nothing to really say about this quarter. The next two are going to be very fun though.



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Soundwave on 31 July 2018
KBG29 said:
Not too impressive. This holiday is going to be very telling of the future of the Switch. I still think the lack of a 4G option, and non gaming priority functions is going stop this thing before it really gets started. The lack of 4G will be even more prominent once their online service launches. What good is a Online Gaming service, on an Unconnected Mobile device?

At any rate, nothing to really say about this quarter. The next two are going to be very fun though.

4G is about the least of the Switch's problems, lol. Even if you want to play that way ... you can. Virtually every human being over the age of 14 has a thing called a smartphone that can create a 4G network if you want to do play that way.

Here's a guy playing Splatoon 2 over 4G:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Tl0FRY_iU

Their issue right now is a lack of new game content and banking too hard on Labo selling systems. Holiday will be fine for Switch though. 



lightningfunk on 31 July 2018

the software sales are really something



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Nautilus on 31 July 2018
KBG29 said:
Not too impressive. This holiday is going to be very telling of the future of the Switch. I still think the lack of a 4G option, and non gaming priority functions is going stop this thing before it really gets started. The lack of 4G will be even more prominent once their online service launches. What good is a Online Gaming service, on an Unconnected Mobile device?

At any rate, nothing to really say about this quarter. The next two are going to be very fun though.

Because it surely didnt get started already

 

*sigh*



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

OTBWY on 31 July 2018
KBG29 said:
Not too impressive. This holiday is going to be very telling of the future of the Switch. I still think the lack of a 4G option, and non gaming priority functions is going stop this thing before it really gets started. The lack of 4G will be even more prominent once their online service launches. What good is a Online Gaming service, on an Unconnected Mobile device?

At any rate, nothing to really say about this quarter. The next two are going to be very fun though.

The Vita had a 3G model that nobody cared about. That had PSN too. It honestly is no indicator of success. Also, this thing already started. A long time ago. People that don't believe it to be successful at this point live in a different reality.



JRPGfan on 31 July 2018
lightningfunk said:
the software sales are really something

Compaired to what?
"Last Quarter the PS4 sold 40.6 million units of PS4 software"

Nintendo Switch has been around like 16 months now, and its sitting at ~87m.
PS4 in 3months did half the total of the Switch? unless Im misunderstanding something here.

Switch is selling software, but not at a insane rate.
Hell even if you take  86,93m Software sales and divide that by the users 18.3m thats about 4.75 games pr switch owner.
And alot of these are small budget indie & A/AA type games.

 

source: https://www.vg247.com/2018/07/31/ps4-up-to-82-2-million-shipped-playstation-plus-subscriber-drop/

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Luke888 on 31 July 2018

NICE, I hope to see DK crossing the 4M mark LT and perhaps Aces too ! I hope Camelot gets a lot of money so that they can make a new Golden Sun...

Xenoblade is going slow but he can do it, with the DLC releasing in September momentum will keep going, it can cross the 2M mark LT easily

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lightningfunk on 31 July 2018
JRPGfan said:
lightningfunk said:
the software sales are really something

Compaired to what?
"Last Quarter the PS4 sold 40.6 million units of PS4 software"

Nintendo Switch has been around like 2 years now, and its sitting at ~87m.
PS4 in 3months did half the total of the Switch? unless Im misunderstanding something here.

Switch is selling software, but not at a insane rate.
Hell even if you take  86,93m Software sales and divide that by the users 18.3m thats about 4.75 games pr switch owner.
And alot of these are small budget indie & A/AA type games.

 

source: https://www.vg247.com/2018/07/31/ps4-up-to-82-2-million-shipped-playstation-plus-subscriber-drop/

i was talking about Nintendo first party game sales