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nemo37 said:
quickrick said:

is that shipped or sold through? shipped i would say 15-17 million.

My predictions are shipped. Assuming there are no price cuts, no hardware revisions, and no competitively priced hardware bundles (if these are introduced, I would revise my projection upwards), I largely see Switch following the 3DS's trajectory this year.

As much as I like the Switch (it is pretty much the only way I can play due to its portability, so it is my primary system), I am worried about its viability overall. Do you see it reaching 50-60 million lifetime? That is where the adoption needs to be, imo, for it to be viable.

I can see that happening tbh.



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nemo37 said:
quickrick said:

is that shipped or sold through? shipped i would say 15-17 million.

My predictions are shipped. Assuming there are no price cuts, no hardware revisions, and no competitively priced hardware bundles (if these are introduced, I would revise my projection upwards), I largely see Switch following the 3DS's trajectory this year.

As much as I like the Switch (it is pretty much the only way I can play due to its portability, so it is my primary system), I am worried about its viability overall. Do you see it reaching 50-60 million lifetime? That is where the adoption needs to be, imo, for it to be viable.

Yea we have the same exact prediction, i forgot launch month is not included in the FY. 65-75 million LTD.

Barkley said:
nemo37 said:

What would be the floor (or "less") part of your prediction? I am just curious if your overall prediction (based on what we know so far of course) is in the ball park of what I predict (13-15 million).

15.5m were shipped last FY. it's going to be more then that imo. I think you're both being pessimistic.

Holidays will be big. I still think shipments will be close to 20m, I thought we might get 18.5m sales to consumers and 20m shipped this FY, maybe 18.5m for shipments is more realistic now.

switch had a lot more going for it last year IMO. it was the new hot item that was always sold out till the holidays, with two of the highest rated titles of all time, and just a amazing line up for core gamers and casual gamers, this year all they have is smash.



quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

My predictions are shipped. Assuming there are no price cuts, no hardware revisions, and no competitively priced hardware bundles (if these are introduced, I would revise my projection upwards), I largely see Switch following the 3DS's trajectory this year.

As much as I like the Switch (it is pretty much the only way I can play due to its portability, so it is my primary system), I am worried about its viability overall. Do you see it reaching 50-60 million lifetime? That is where the adoption needs to be, imo, for it to be viable.

Yea we have the same exact prediction, i forgot launch month is not included in the FY. 65-75 million LTD.

Barkley said:

15.5m were shipped last FY. it's going to be more then that imo. I think you're both being pessimistic.

Holidays will be big. I still think shipments will be close to 20m, I thought we might get 18.5m sales to consumers and 20m shipped this FY, maybe 18.5m for shipments is more realistic now.

switch had a lot more going for it last year IMO. it was the new hot item that was always sold out till the holidays, with two of the highest rated titles of all time, and just a amazing line up for core gamers and casual gamers, this year all they have is smash.

That's the same as saying the PS4 will not sell consoles anymore this year because all they had this year was God of War. Neither is even close to the truth



Bofferbrauer2 said:
quickrick said:

Yea we have the same exact prediction, i forgot launch month is not included in the FY. 65-75 million LTD.

switch had a lot more going for it last year IMO. it was the new hot item that was always sold out till the holidays, with two of the highest rated titles of all time, and just a amazing line up for core gamers and casual gamers, this year all they have is smash.

That's the same as saying the PS4 will not sell consoles anymore this year because all they had this year was God of War. Neither is even close to the truth

PS4 has the whole industry backing it, switch is mainly being sold because of nintendo games, it's a major difference, playstation is just a much stronger brand WW as well.



quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

My predictions are shipped. Assuming there are no price cuts, no hardware revisions, and no competitively priced hardware bundles (if these are introduced, I would revise my projection upwards), I largely see Switch following the 3DS's trajectory this year.

As much as I like the Switch (it is pretty much the only way I can play due to its portability, so it is my primary system), I am worried about its viability overall. Do you see it reaching 50-60 million lifetime? That is where the adoption needs to be, imo, for it to be viable.

Yea we have the same exact prediction, i forgot launch month is not included in the FY. 65-75 million LTD.

Barkley said:

15.5m were shipped last FY. it's going to be more then that imo. I think you're both being pessimistic.

Holidays will be big. I still think shipments will be close to 20m, I thought we might get 18.5m sales to consumers and 20m shipped this FY, maybe 18.5m for shipments is more realistic now.

switch had a lot more going for it last year IMO. it was the new hot item that was always sold out till the holidays, with two of the highest rated titles of all time, and just a amazing line up for core gamers and casual gamers, this year all they have is smash.

I get Pokemon Let’s Go isn’t for everyone, but there’s still potential for this game and it’s still Pokemon. Even GameStop said Let’s Go has strong preorders. There’s potential considering that Pokemon Go is stronger than it has been in a long while and there are a lot of examples of causal fans and adults who played Pokemon one time finding interest in these upcoming games.



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Shaunodon said:

quickrick 2 hours ago:

quickrick said:

Did you miss the part where nintendo said it has weaker shipments for Q1 2018 compared to Q1 2017?

quickrick now:

quickrick said:

Obviously nintendo are gonna say they are fully expecting it to play it cool, don't really care what nintedo said really, they have been off with there 3ds and wiiu forcast every year they won't change it till they know 100% they can't make that number. BTW the official  translation just came out.

There you have it folks.

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quickrick said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

That's the same as saying the PS4 will not sell consoles anymore this year because all they had this year was God of War. Neither is even close to the truth

PS4 has the whole industry backing it, switch is mainly being sold because of nintendo games, it's a major difference, playstation is just a much stronger brand WW as well.

Well, seeing the last numbers from Europe, not sure it's still the same powerhouse it was one or two years ago. PS4 is definitely starting to show it's age.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
quickrick said:

PS4 has the whole industry backing it, switch is mainly being sold because of nintendo games, it's a major difference, playstation is just a much stronger brand WW as well.

Well, seeing the last numbers from Europe, not sure it's still the same powerhouse it was one or two years ago. PS4 is definitely starting to show it's age.

what numbers you talking about?



quickrick said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Well, seeing the last numbers from Europe, not sure it's still the same powerhouse it was one or two years ago. PS4 is definitely starting to show it's age.

what numbers you talking about?

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-07-07-check-out-the-impact-the-steam-sale-has-on-the-european-charts

Nintendo is starting to dominate retail sales in Europe. And even though they don't disclose their digital sales numbers, they're starting to dominate the combined numbers, too.



For Europe, last year I remember that we often saw weekly sales 2,5-3 times outselling the switch. This ratio has fallen to 1,3-2 in 2018.