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Dissapointing event. Only smash and FE did it for me. Smash looks amazing and really promising like expected. Fire emblem looks all right but it looks super empty sometimes. Im 100% sure its gonna be a fantastic game but I hope they change some things about the look of the game. Starlink looked fine, Fortnite coming to the switch is great and Im pretty excited for alot of the indie games. Ill have to wait and see for Mario Party if it has online Ill be super excited for it otherwise meh.



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abronn627 said:

I think we’re making a mistake to judge content or presentation the same way we look at the other’s presentation.

What I mean is that Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all have different ways of using an event like E3. If Microsoft would have made a presentation like Nintendo, that would have been a disaster, because they mainly rely on E3 to showcase what they have in store, like a unique event to impress. 

In the case of Sony, the pacing was weird and even if dates or release windows weren’t properly announced, it dosen’t matter because they rely on more than one event to do so. I don’t know if they will be present in Paris like last year, but they use the personal event in December to present or announce games and use the E3 to showcase them or the other way around. The only moments it can be problematic are when the same game is shown to many times because it’s been unveiled to early, for exemple, if they had spent an other 10 minutes on Days Gone during their presentation that would have been redundant.

With Nintendo, E3 is not as relevant as it was before. Knowing that they can use their Direct to unveil or showcase previously announced game at any moment in the course of a year, I don’t mind that some games that I was expecting are not there because they can drop it at anytime. Each Direct can be a smal E3 like event, the big difference is that at E3 you have to fight for visibility, while it’s not always the case in august or january. With that in mind, their stategy of focusing on one big game,like in the past two years, is for me,the right one. There’s a bigger chance that Smash Bros will be the game the most talked about at E3 and on social media.

It might disappointing, but since they don’t rely on one event like Microsoft, I won’t judge them the same way.

That is actually a very good point that I didn't touch on. Nintendo does spread out announcements with their directs, which does factor in with how they approach E3. I do however feel that E3 still has some importance. It is watched still by a lot of people. And not just Nintendo fans are watching, but also other people who perhaps who perhaps don't watch directs. It is a good opportunity to get those people interested. 




OTBWY said:
abronn627 said:

I think we’re making a mistake to judge content or presentation the same way we look at the other’s presentation.

What I mean is that Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all have different ways of using an event like E3. If Microsoft would have made a presentation like Nintendo, that would have been a disaster, because they mainly rely on E3 to showcase what they have in store, like a unique event to impress. 

In the case of Sony, the pacing was weird and even if dates or release windows weren’t properly announced, it dosen’t matter because they rely on more than one event to do so. I don’t know if they will be present in Paris like last year, but they use the personal event in December to present or announce games and use the E3 to showcase them or the other way around. The only moments it can be problematic are when the same game is shown to many times because it’s been unveiled to early, for exemple, if they had spent an other 10 minutes on Days Gone during their presentation that would have been redundant.

With Nintendo, E3 is not as relevant as it was before. Knowing that they can use their Direct to unveil or showcase previously announced game at any moment in the course of a year, I don’t mind that some games that I was expecting are not there because they can drop it at anytime. Each Direct can be a smal E3 like event, the big difference is that at E3 you have to fight for visibility, while it’s not always the case in august or january. With that in mind, their stategy of focusing on one big game,like in the past two years, is for me,the right one. There’s a bigger chance that Smash Bros will be the game the most talked about at E3 and on social media.

It might disappointing, but since they don’t rely on one event like Microsoft, I won’t judge them the same way.

That is actually a very good point that I didn't touch on. Nintendo does spread out announcements with their directs, which does factor in with how they approach E3. I do however feel that E3 still has some importance. It is watched still by a lot of people. And not just Nintendo fans are watching, but also other people who perhaps who perhaps don't watch directs. It is a good opportunity to get those people interested. 

To be fair. They did say they were only gonna show games for 2018 at E3. 



Mcube said:
OTBWY said:

That is actually a very good point that I didn't touch on. Nintendo does spread out announcements with their directs, which does factor in with how they approach E3. I do however feel that E3 still has some importance. It is watched still by a lot of people. And not just Nintendo fans are watching, but also other people who perhaps who perhaps don't watch directs. It is a good opportunity to get those people interested. 

To be fair. They did say they were only gonna show games for 2018 at E3. 

I saw some games that come out in 2019. So what was said wasn't correct.




OTBWY said:
Mcube said:

To be fair. They did say they were only gonna show games for 2018 at E3. 

I saw some games that come out in 2019. So what was said wasn't correct.

Yeah only FE from Nintendo themselves but they announced that for 2018 originally they just delayed it and softened it with a trailer. 



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The direct was fine, not great or terrible. The one issue I do have right now is that for the rest of 2018 I can only really think of two games for the Switch that I am genuinely interested in: Smash and Octopath Traveler. Fire Emblem also looks good, but that's for 2019. It's not a huge issue though, since once I actually do get a Switch I have enough games from 2017 to choose from anyway. I imagine that it's going to be a much bigger issue to people who already have played most of that stuff though.



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OTBWY said:
abronn627 said:

I think we’re making a mistake to judge content or presentation the same way we look at the other’s presentation.

What I mean is that Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all have different ways of using an event like E3. If Microsoft would have made a presentation like Nintendo, that would have been a disaster, because they mainly rely on E3 to showcase what they have in store, like a unique event to impress. 

In the case of Sony, the pacing was weird and even if dates or release windows weren’t properly announced, it dosen’t matter because they rely on more than one event to do so. I don’t know if they will be present in Paris like last year, but they use the personal event in December to present or announce games and use the E3 to showcase them or the other way around. The only moments it can be problematic are when the same game is shown to many times because it’s been unveiled to early, for exemple, if they had spent an other 10 minutes on Days Gone during their presentation that would have been redundant.

With Nintendo, E3 is not as relevant as it was before. Knowing that they can use their Direct to unveil or showcase previously announced game at any moment in the course of a year, I don’t mind that some games that I was expecting are not there because they can drop it at anytime. Each Direct can be a smal E3 like event, the big difference is that at E3 you have to fight for visibility, while it’s not always the case in august or january. With that in mind, their stategy of focusing on one big game,like in the past two years, is for me,the right one. There’s a bigger chance that Smash Bros will be the game the most talked about at E3 and on social media.

It might disappointing, but since they don’t rely on one event like Microsoft, I won’t judge them the same way.

That is actually a very good point that I didn't touch on. Nintendo does spread out announcements with their directs, which does factor in with how they approach E3. I do however feel that E3 still has some importance. It is watched still by a lot of people. And not just Nintendo fans are watching, but also other people who perhaps who perhaps don't watch directs. It is a good opportunity to get those people interested. 

I agree with your point of view. I think it is also important to point out that unlike the other Directs, which are typically announced a day or two in advance, the E3 event is announced months earlier, hence more people are exposed to it and this is where they expect to get new announcements (not to mention the rest of the industry makes announcements at this event). I think Nintendo should have detailed titles further down the pipeline, pretty much like the other companies did. I look at these E3 pressers as the place where people come to see less of what you are going to release right away but what you have overall (this is particularly important for a relatively new system, like Switch currently, where people are looking for more long-term support). My big hope right now is that this particular does not massively negatively impact sales, due to lack of new announcements of games coming further down the line (I feel something, even a cinematic, from Bayonetta or Metroid Prime or another unannounced project could have greatly raised the mood of this Direct).



Darashiva said:
The direct was fine, not great or terrible. The one issue I do have right now is that for the rest of 2018 I can only really think of two games for the Switch that I am genuinely interested in: Smash and Octopath Traveler. Fire Emblem also looks good, but that's for 2019. It's not a huge issue though, since once I actually do get a Switch I have enough games from 2017 to choose from anyway. I imagine that it's going to be a much bigger issue to people who already have played most of that stuff though.

There's a thread in the Nintendo discussion forum where we are listing all the games coming the rest of the year.

 

Maybe you'll find something interesting there!



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If we go by @OTBWY's criteria of only judging what was presented, the show was still a disappointment and a 7 is being too nice. From what I've heard, Sony's pacing was bad, but it was also just as odd with Nintendo. Rapid firing off trailers for the first 40% of the conference and then smashing into a brick wall the moment we get to Kyoto made no sense and was completely jarring.

I've settled on a 5. Incredibly middle-of-the-road, but not the worst thing ever. There's definitely been worse... *shutters*

2018 as a whole though? Pretty decent. E3 doesn't destroy the whole year as it's kind of just a fairly sized blip on Nintendo's radar anymore.



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Pavolink said:
Darashiva said:
The direct was fine, not great or terrible. The one issue I do have right now is that for the rest of 2018 I can only really think of two games for the Switch that I am genuinely interested in: Smash and Octopath Traveler. Fire Emblem also looks good, but that's for 2019. It's not a huge issue though, since once I actually do get a Switch I have enough games from 2017 to choose from anyway. I imagine that it's going to be a much bigger issue to people who already have played most of that stuff though.

There's a thread in the Nintendo discussion forum where we are listing all the games coming the rest of the year.

 

Maybe you'll find something interesting there!

It's mostly exclusives I'm interested in when it comes to Switch games. I'm most likely going to play multiplatforms on PC or PS4.



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