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Azzanation on 28 May 2018
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

25% or 40% makes no difference, a fake review is a fake review and should not be tolerated, Detroit has received 2 reviews that gave it a 4/10 while GTS has received only 1 review of 10/10 on an average of 75.. that 10/10 sticks out like a sore thumb compared to Detroit where there's multiple reviewers who gave it low numbers. 

Your last sentence baffles me.. what has this got to do with me, I am not a reviewer and I am not rating this game haha.. You come out complaining about a review or reviews not hitting your sweet spot and I am basically telling you to ignore them and just play the damn games. Don't be bias, if you hate the extremely low negative reviews than you should hate the extremely high positive reviews, but you choose to ignore it because.. well are you bias? Do you see me posting about the negative reviews on SOT or SOD2? I don't care as much as you think, I just play the games if they interest me.

Also stay on topic, stop trying to make this personal.

If being 25% or 40% makes no difference, then 0% also doesn't right? And since when did Troll translate to fake? And how can you prove that the 100 is fake? And there were more high grade reviews on GTS as well. Also still waiting for any positive troll review.

It have to do with you that say scores or hate doesn't stop you from playing a game. So I want to know what PS exclusives did you play. I don't let scores stop me from playing, but it also doesn't stop me from complaining about them. But here you are a royal member of the PC master race who have so many good games to play that doesn't have time to discuss on the internet.

I'll stop when you take your own advice. But since you still haven't I'll say that I'm always delighted when the most biased users on VGC ask others to be unbiased... and even worse because they think they aren't biased.

Don, you still refuse to see the point. Regardless if the review is fake, a troll or whatever you like to call them, if its meant to rob or hype a company of success than they all should be taken into consideration not just the negative ones. Again Detroit has received 2 reviews giving it a 4/10 so how do you point them out as troll reviews?

Halo 4 - 87 Meta < Quarter to Three gave it the only red review of a 2/10 < 67% difference

Forza Horizon 2 - 86 Meta Quarter to Three < gave it the only red review of a 2/10 < 66% difference

The same guy keeps giving MS exclusives extremely low reviews, if you think a 4/10 is bad on a game sitting on a 79 Average than you must really open your eyes out there. I still enjoyed those games very much and couldn't care less how many 2/10s it got. A 2 is a lot worse than a 4, be thankful because it can be worse.

Get over it honestly.

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DonFerrari on 28 May 2018
Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

If being 25% or 40% makes no difference, then 0% also doesn't right? And since when did Troll translate to fake? And how can you prove that the 100 is fake? And there were more high grade reviews on GTS as well. Also still waiting for any positive troll review.

It have to do with you that say scores or hate doesn't stop you from playing a game. So I want to know what PS exclusives did you play. I don't let scores stop me from playing, but it also doesn't stop me from complaining about them. But here you are a royal member of the PC master race who have so many good games to play that doesn't have time to discuss on the internet.

I'll stop when you take your own advice. But since you still haven't I'll say that I'm always delighted when the most biased users on VGC ask others to be unbiased... and even worse because they think they aren't biased.

Don, you still refuse to see the point. Regardless if the review is fake, a troll or whatever you like to call them, if its meant to rob or hype a company of success than they all should be taken into consideration not just the negative ones. Again Detroit has received 2 reviews giving it a 4/10 so how do you point them out as troll reviews?

Halo 4 - 87 Meta < Quarter to Three gave it the only red review of a 2/10

Forza Horizon 2 - 86 Meta Quarter to Three < gave it the only red review of a 2/10

The same guy keeps giving MS exclusives extremely low reviews, if you think a 4/10 is bad on a game sitting on a 79 Average than you must really open your eyes out there. I still enjoyed those games very much and couldn't care less how many 2/10s it got. A 2 is a lot worse than a 4, be thankful because it can be worse.

Get over it honestly.

Nope, you are the one that are trying to shape definitions (isn't the first time you have been verified to do it). Sure a bought review to hype a product is bad, can you prove it was the case for the 10 on GTS? Troll reviews aren't designed to rob a company of its success (you do use some out of place words), they are more likely used for clickbait.

Yes for me those 2 reviews from Quarter to Three (which is usually regarded as a troll reviewer) are trolling two very good games.

Still waiting for your list of exclusives from PS4 you can show you played.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation on 28 May 2018
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

Don, you still refuse to see the point. Regardless if the review is fake, a troll or whatever you like to call them, if its meant to rob or hype a company of success than they all should be taken into consideration not just the negative ones. Again Detroit has received 2 reviews giving it a 4/10 so how do you point them out as troll reviews?

Halo 4 - 87 Meta < Quarter to Three gave it the only red review of a 2/10

Forza Horizon 2 - 86 Meta Quarter to Three < gave it the only red review of a 2/10

The same guy keeps giving MS exclusives extremely low reviews, if you think a 4/10 is bad on a game sitting on a 79 Average than you must really open your eyes out there. I still enjoyed those games very much and couldn't care less how many 2/10s it got. A 2 is a lot worse than a 4, be thankful because it can be worse.

Get over it honestly.

Nope, you are the one that are trying to shape definitions (isn't the first time you have been verified to do it). Sure a bought review to hype a product is bad, can you prove it was the case for the 10 on GTS? Troll reviews aren't designed to rob a company of its success (you do use some out of place words), they are more likely used for clickbait.

Yes for me those 2 reviews from Quarter to Three (which is usually regarded as a troll reviewer) are trolling two very good games.

Still waiting for your list of exclusives from PS4 you can show you played.

Question: You ask if I can I prove to you the same case as the 10/10 score for GTS?

Answer: The same way you can prove that those 4s for Detroit are trolls.

I am going to leave it at your 2nd last sentence. 

As for your last sentence, If you want to debate off topic I suggest you PM me, if not leave it at that. I don't see how me playing games relates to this thread. 



DonFerrari on 28 May 2018
Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

Nope, you are the one that are trying to shape definitions (isn't the first time you have been verified to do it). Sure a bought review to hype a product is bad, can you prove it was the case for the 10 on GTS? Troll reviews aren't designed to rob a company of its success (you do use some out of place words), they are more likely used for clickbait.

Yes for me those 2 reviews from Quarter to Three (which is usually regarded as a troll reviewer) are trolling two very good games.

Still waiting for your list of exclusives from PS4 you can show you played.

Question: You ask if I can I prove to you the same case as the 10/10 score for GTS?

Answer: The same way you can prove that those 4s for Detroit are trolls.

I am going to leave it at your 2nd last sentence. 

As for your last sentence, If you want to debate off topic I suggest you PM me, if not leave it at that. I don't see how me playing games relates to this thread. 

You seem to simply doesn't understand what is a troll to try and infer that it was a positive troll.

Also you have it show to you why the two 4s were basically trolls already.

It relates to you calling people biased and talking about hate. So please show the Sony games you played or move on. Either aknowledge your bias or stop showing on threads as if you were unbiased.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation on 28 May 2018
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

Question: You ask if I can I prove to you the same case as the 10/10 score for GTS?

Answer: The same way you can prove that those 4s for Detroit are trolls.

I am going to leave it at your 2nd last sentence. 

As for your last sentence, If you want to debate off topic I suggest you PM me, if not leave it at that. I don't see how me playing games relates to this thread. 

You seem to simply doesn't understand what is a troll to try and infer that it was a positive troll.

Also you have it show to you why the two 4s were basically trolls already.

It relates to you calling people biased and talking about hate. So please show the Sony games you played or move on. Either aknowledge your bias or stop showing on threads as if you were unbiased.

So you are basing the two 4/10 reviews as trolls because both reviews are lower than all the other reviews? I just watch Jim Sterling video on this game, I suggest you avoid his video as well. To you it seems no one can have an opinion on a game if it doesn't suit the average set by others.

Ill say just this, I am not sticking up for the 4/10 reviews, I personal don't care because these games are simply not for me, but for someone who wants to bash low scoring reviews and completely ignore the other side of the table is why I am asking you the question. Weather its 40% under average or 20% over average they should all be considered the same if the review is not well explained why they didn't like it.



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DonFerrari on 28 May 2018
Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

You seem to simply doesn't understand what is a troll to try and infer that it was a positive troll.

Also you have it show to you why the two 4s were basically trolls already.

It relates to you calling people biased and talking about hate. So please show the Sony games you played or move on. Either aknowledge your bias or stop showing on threads as if you were unbiased.

So you are basing the two 4/10 reviews as trolls because both reviews are lower than all the other reviews? I just watch Jim Sterling video on this game, I suggest you avoid his video as well. To you it seems no one can have an opinion on a game if it doesn't suit the average set by others.

Ill say just this, I am not sticking up for the 4/10 reviews, I personal don't care because these games are simply not for me, but for someone who wants to bash low scoring reviews and completely ignore the other side of the table is why I am asking you the question. Weather its 40% under average or 20% over average they should all be considered the same if the review is not well explained why they didn't like it.

I'm basing they as troll not only because of the score, but how it was defended, their probable intention and that 40 indicates a game on the unplayable level which this game isn't. And you watched a negative video of a game you don't want to play because?

I'm still waiting for you to show how the 100% score for GTS was unjustified you haven't done it for anyone to agree with you. Also you haven't show any positive troll review, besides changing it to fake, which also you didn't prove it is.

Also waiting for you to prove you are unbiased or say you are.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation on 28 May 2018
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

So you are basing the two 4/10 reviews as trolls because both reviews are lower than all the other reviews? I just watch Jim Sterling video on this game, I suggest you avoid his video as well. To you it seems no one can have an opinion on a game if it doesn't suit the average set by others.

Ill say just this, I am not sticking up for the 4/10 reviews, I personal don't care because these games are simply not for me, but for someone who wants to bash low scoring reviews and completely ignore the other side of the table is why I am asking you the question. Weather its 40% under average or 20% over average they should all be considered the same if the review is not well explained why they didn't like it.

I'm basing they as troll not only because of the score, but how it was defended, their probable intention and that 40 indicates a game on the unplayable level which this game isn't. And you watched a negative video of a game you don't want to play because?

I'm still waiting for you to show how the 100% score for GTS was unjustified you haven't done it for anyone to agree with you. Also you haven't show any positive troll review, besides changing it to fake, which also you didn't prove it is.

Also waiting for you to prove you are unbiased or say you are.

I know you love GTS so I am using GTS as a prime example to how you are thinking, not how I am thinking, I haven't read the review, but basing off your logic, anything far from the average should be treated as a troll review or fake review. I use the term fake meaning troll because its not a real review, just something for clicks or to hype or drop a products standings. 

I also haven't read the reviews on Detroit so I wouldn't know if its a troll review or not, but I can say this, there are 2 reviews giving the game 4/10 not just 1 which doesn't hold your argument up very well. Also a 4 isn't a broken mess, Angry Joe gives 4s out to slightly below average games, a broken mess would be a 1 or 2. Depends who you listen to.

Yes I watch Jim on YouTube, is there a problem with that? 



DonFerrari on 28 May 2018
Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm basing they as troll not only because of the score, but how it was defended, their probable intention and that 40 indicates a game on the unplayable level which this game isn't. And you watched a negative video of a game you don't want to play because?

I'm still waiting for you to show how the 100% score for GTS was unjustified you haven't done it for anyone to agree with you. Also you haven't show any positive troll review, besides changing it to fake, which also you didn't prove it is.

Also waiting for you to prove you are unbiased or say you are.

I know you love GTS so I am using GTS as a prime example to how you are thinking, not how I am thinking, I haven't read the review, but basing off your logic, anything far from the average should be treated as a troll review or fake review. I use the term fake meaning troll because its not a real review, just something for clicks or to hype or drop a products standings. 

I also haven't read the reviews on Detroit so I wouldn't know if its a troll review or not, but I can say this, there are 2 reviews giving the game 4/10 not just 1 which doesn't hold your argument up very well. Also a 4 isn't a broken mess, Angry Joe gives 4s out to slightly below average games, a broken mess would be a 1 or 2. Depends who you listen to.

Yes I watch Jim on YouTube, is there a problem with that? 

So you admit to be fishing using a strawman argument? Where did anyone besides you said any score that is far from average (that for you if 25 or 40 is the same, then 25 to 10 is the same and 10 to 0 as well right?) is troll (you are also the only one talking about fake review). You are the one changing definitions non-stop to try and make an argument stick, and have failed miserably at it.

When you read the review for GTS and see how it is fake you come and use it. Because people here have read the Detroit and show why it's ridiculous.

Are we discussing Angry Joe? Haven't seem his review cited here. And still Detroit wouldn't dwell on below average (also ignore that gaming average have been sitting about 70 as also show to you in other threads).

No problem you watching Jim, just curious why you would watch negative reviews on a game you don't care on a platform you never play. Will you list the PS games you played yet?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation on 28 May 2018
DonFerrari said:

 

So you admit to be fishing using a strawman argument? Where did anyone besides you said any score that is far from average (that for you if 25 or 40 is the same, then 25 to 10 is the same and 10 to 0 as well right?) is troll (you are also the only one talking about fake review). You are the one changing definitions non-stop to try and make an argument stick, and have failed miserably at it.

When you read the review for GTS and see how it is fake you come and use it. Because people here have read the Detroit and show why it's ridiculous.

Are we discussing Angry Joe? Haven't seem his review cited here. And still Detroit wouldn't dwell on below average (also ignore that gaming average have been sitting about 70 as also show to you in other threads).

No problem you watching Jim, just curious why you would watch negative reviews on a game you don't care on a platform you never play. Will you list the PS games you played yet?

I am saying you and many others are quick to judge a negative review yet how many in here are quick to judge a perfect score? 10,20,30 or 40 % higher or lower should all be treated the same unless the review is complete trash. Again you seem to ignore the great scores yet choose to bash the low scores, its pretty clear here. I bet you would give this game a 10/10 and you want everyone else to think the same. If someone hates the genre or the controls than they can claim it in there review which means the game isn't for everyone. If they state something completely unfair like the graphics are shit but are actually quite good than that's a troll review.

I have seen many reviews who don't believe this game is a 8 so the debate is in the air, clearly its a mixed bag, some love it some hate it. Respect those who hate it just like you respect those who love it. Two completely different reviewers gave the game a 4/10, not just 1 out of nowhere like in my Halo 4/Horizon 2 examples previously. 



DonFerrari on 28 May 2018
Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

So you admit to be fishing using a strawman argument? Where did anyone besides you said any score that is far from average (that for you if 25 or 40 is the same, then 25 to 10 is the same and 10 to 0 as well right?) is troll (you are also the only one talking about fake review). You are the one changing definitions non-stop to try and make an argument stick, and have failed miserably at it.

When you read the review for GTS and see how it is fake you come and use it. Because people here have read the Detroit and show why it's ridiculous.

Are we discussing Angry Joe? Haven't seem his review cited here. And still Detroit wouldn't dwell on below average (also ignore that gaming average have been sitting about 70 as also show to you in other threads).

No problem you watching Jim, just curious why you would watch negative reviews on a game you don't care on a platform you never play. Will you list the PS games you played yet?

I am saying you and many others are quick to judge a negative review yet how many in here are quick to judge a perfect score? 10,20,30 or 40 % higher or lower should all be treated the same unless the review is complete trash. Again you seem to ignore the great scores yet choose to bash the low scores, its pretty clear here. I bet you would give this game a 10/10 and you want everyone else to think the same. If someone hates the genre or the controls than they can claim it in there review which means the game isn't for everyone. If they state something completely unfair like the graphics are shit but are actually quite good than that's a troll review.

I have seen many reviews who don't believe this game is a 8 so the debate is in the air, clearly its a mixed bag, some love it some hate it. Respect those who hate it just like you respect those who love it. Two completely different reviewers gave the game a 4/10, not just 1 out of nowhere like in my Halo 4/Horizon 2 examples previously. 

I and many others do that because there are completely different reasons for both. In general very negative reviews are done to troll and clickbait, very positive are more because the person really liked.

Both 40 for Detroit and the one for GT5 (that seemly) were explained why they are trash. You still haven't show why the 100 on GTS was trash, and you keep dodging.

I sure would give 10 to GT5 and even GTS, still I'm not a professional reviewer am I? If someone hates the genre and do the review based on this hate that is a troll review. If you don't like the genre you don't need a review trashing the game for you to realize what genre it is for you to avoid. But you are going in circle here.

And funny that you now invented another metric, if it's 2 scores then it isn't trolling.

How much are you going to distort definitions to satisfy yourself?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."