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On pay gap...
Serious studies that consider that female nurse and male neurosurgeon aren't the same profession so paygap isn't due to gender and other similar considerations show that in Germany it seems to be around 7% as quoted in another thread in VGC.
And the 7% have much explanation on time worked and experience.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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"Hot take: If all of the people complaining about women in Battlefield V decide not to play the game, the online multiplayer community will be the best online multiplayer community of any Battlefield game."

Dustin Brancsum on Twitter



Its very rare, from my point of view at least, that the sexuality of the vast majority of presumed straight ppl in media is important to the plot (or even mentioned at all).

Isnt it a bit strange to assume that, just because a character doesn't say out loud "Hey, I'm gay" that they MUST be straight?

I prefer to think that they're into a multitude of things, just like in real life. Anything else would be weird, IMO.

Eh. Just an observation. I agree with the OP.



bugrimmar said:

This is a rant. Sorry.

 

I love diversity. I love equality. I love representation.

I think it's great that the world is recognizing the need for women to receive equal treatment at work. I completely agree that homosexual couples should be able to get married. I am extremely against racism in all forms and I believe every person is equal. It doesn't matter where you're from or what religion you are.

BUT STOP INFECTING OUR ENTERTAINMENT WITH YOUR SELF ENTITLEMENT.

 

1. TALENT is what matters. Not your race or your sexual orientation. So if you aren't as talented as a male developer or director, you still should get the opportunity just because you're female? If you want to get a spot, IMPROVE. Let your work speak for itself and don't use your being female or Hispanic as a reason for your lack of success. It's garbage that less talented individuals are given work just for the sake of diversity. Diversity is good! But not if you're hiring someone just to prove your workplace is diverse and not because of talent!

2. STOP BENDING STORYLINES FOR THE SAKE OF INCLUSION. If your story calls for a homosexual character wherein his/her homosexuality has something to do with the story, then go for it. I would love to experience new storylines that explore these real world issues. But if you're just making a character a female just for the sake of showing inclusion and diversity and her feminine nature has nothing to do with the story, it's just stupid! Why make an all female Ghostbusters cast with a stupid ass male supporting character? Does their being female have anything to do with the story? Or did you just want to show people how "gender friendly" you are? The end result is the story becomes stupid! Did you cast black homosexual Achilles because it adds to the story? Does it? Or does it simply seek to rewrite an age old story unnecessarily just for your diversity dreams?

3. STOP USING STEREOTYPES. Not all Asians are math geniuses and not all African American characters are jacked up gangstas. Characters in games are just placed there as token pieces to fulfill a checklist. "Have we included the obligatory blonde skinny sex symbol? Check. What about the muscle bound black guy who swears every f@$#ing sentence? Check. What about the dumb Hispanic guy who talks like a meth addict? Check." It's like these people are just casting characters to fulfill obligations. Why do we have angelababy in Independence day? Not for her acting, but because she's a hot Asian chick who can appeal to viewers in China! Yeah! Cast her so we can show our movie has mass appeal!

 

 

All you have to do to fix your diversity problem is to NOT CHANGE EXISTING STORIES AND CHARACTERS just to fulfill your agenda. You have every right to make NEW STORIES AND NEW CHARACTERS. Just don't fucking change the ones we already like and we are already invested in. It's been mentioned in this thread so many times already. There's no problem with playing female or black characters. BUT DONT FORCE THEM INTO CHARACTERS THAT ARENT LIKE THAT. 

IF A CHARACTER WAS WRITTEN WHITE, THEN HES WHITE. IF HES STRAIGHT, HES STRAIGHT. IF HES A MAN, HES A MAN. LIKEWISE, IF A CHARACTER WAS WRITTEN AS FEMALE, ASIAN, BLACK, HISPANIC, OR WHATEVER, THEN STICK TO IT! DONT CHANGE IT!

Just like you don't want people to mess with black, Asian, and female characters, it shouldn't be done to any characters at all. When Scarlett Johansson was cast in ghost in the shell, it was called whitewashing. I agreed and I thought it was a bad decision. But it's also a bad decision to turn the human torch black! It's also a bad decision to turn the Ghostbusters cast totally female without even a nod to the originals!

 

End of rant.

I realized you wrote "stop using stereotypes." I agree but in essence that sounds like an argument for more diversity in roles.



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VGPolyglot said:

Your point?



Kaneman! said:
VGPolyglot said:

Your point?

That people complaining about this being some recent phenomenon are wrong.



VGPolyglot said:
Kaneman! said:

Your point?

That people complaining about this being some recent phenomenon are wrong.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that depicting a resistance fighter, not a soldier?

Besides, if I remember correctly, there was also a female french resistance fighter in CoD 3, and I don't remember any outrage about that.

Off-topic: That cover picture, though. It makes no sense - shame that Yahtzee doesn't do Judging by the cover anymore, that one would be great for a retro episode.



Kaneman! said:
VGPolyglot said:

That people complaining about this being some recent phenomenon are wrong.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that depicting a resistance fighter, not a soldier?

Besides, if I remember correctly, there was also a female french resistance fighter in CoD 3, and I don't remember any outrage about that.

Off-topic: That cover picture, though. It makes no sense - shame that Yahtzee doesn't do Judging by the cover anymore, that one would be great for a retro episode.

Why does it matter whether it's a resistance fighter or a soldier? And CoD3 having them is just more evidence that this is not a recent phenomenon.



"BUT STOP INFECTING OUR ENTERTAINMENT WITH YOUR SELF ENTITLEMENT."


oh dear.. You are calling others out on your own entitlement? jeez.