H.E.R. said:
Deflecting when you don't like your answer. Very good. You could be a great politician. |
No deflection. But I know exactly where this is going so I thought I'd spare us sometime and bring up another myth. You might want to stop taking pages out of misinformation left talking points
The school shooting in Illinois that happened Weds got no coverage because a good guy with a gun shot the perp in a couple seconds after he started shooting. Nobody hurt but the loser. Look it up...
Maxosaurus-rex said:
No deflection. But I know exactly where this is going so I thought I'd spare us sometime and bring up another myth. You might want to stop taking pages out of misinformation left talking points |
I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal so I don't get my talking points from one side of the aisle. Thanks for jumping to that conclusion though.
Anyway, of you know where this conversation was going, tell me.
| Wiibaron said: The school shooting in Illinois that happened Weds got no coverage because a good guy with a gun shot the perp in a couple seconds after he started shooting. Nobody hurt but the loser. Look it up... |
The "good guy with a gun" in Parkland ran away and the one in Santa Fe was shot. What's your point?
H.E.R. said:
I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal so I don't get my talking points from one side of the aisle. Thanks for jumping to that conclusion though.
Anyway, of you know where this conversation was going, tell me. |
It is illegal to sell to a resident out of state at a gun show or otherwise. And you also might want to look up the definition of dealer. People at gun shows are actively participating in the sale of firearms. They could easily fit the definition. And no, a private seller selling a gun is not going to change gun crime so you can wail to close the "loophole" all you want. Nothing changes. BTW, it's also not a loophole because it's very intentionally that way. Think of the feds as MS and a gun the xbox-one games pre launch.
Maxosaurus-rex said:
It is illegal to sell to a resident out of state at a gun show or otherwise. And you also might want to look up the definition of dealer. People at gun shows are actively participating in the sale of firearms. They could easily fit the definition. |
Didn't once disagree with any of this in this thread. I said guns can easily be illegally obtained (Fake IDs was an example how someone can purchase a weapon in a different state) and then legally take it with him/her across state lines.
I also said the Brady Bill federally covers licensed sellers with background checks, not unlicensed private sellers, many of which can be found at gun shows.
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And no, a private seller selling a gun is not going to change gun crime so you can wail to close the "loophole" all you want. Nothing changes. BTW, it's also not a loophole because it's very intentionally that way. Think of the feds as MS and a gun the xbox-one games pre launch. |
Again, if you don't want to close the loophole, how do you curb school shootings in America? Do you believe school shootings are a problem? So far, you've been telling me the country shouldn't do something because it won't work. That's like saying making murder shouldn't be illegal because people will still kill.
H.E.R. said:
Didn't once disagree with any of this in this thread. I said guns can easily be illegally obtained (Fake IDs was an example how someone can purchase a weapon in a different state) and then legally take it with him/her across state lines. I also said the Brady Bill federally covers licensed sellers with background checks, not unlicensed private sellers, many of which can be found at gun shows.
Again, if you don't want to close the loophole, how do you curb school shootings in America? Do you believe school shootings are a problem? So far, you've been telling me the country shouldn't do something because it won't work. That's like saying making murder shouldn't be illegal because people will still kill. |
Are you suggesting that the gun show sales are directly related to school shootings? I can't tell if you are relating the two in your first question or if you are just switching to a different issue
| Maxosaurus-rex said:
Are you suggesting that the gun show sales are directly related to school shootings? I can't tell if you are relating the two in your first question or if you are just switching to a different issue |
You brought up Chicago. I'm saying closing gun show loopholes and making transporting firearms across illegal at a federal level (among other stricter gun laws) can help curb homicides in that city.
The thread started on school shootings. You could read my thoughts a page back on curbing that and as well as homicides in general.
I am also asking your thoughts on curbing both gun crimes and school shootings. I'm also asking if you believe school shootings in America are a problem.
LOL what are the demographics on this site? Is this mostly European? That’s the only way some of these comments make sense.
H.E.R. said:
Didn't once disagree with any of this in this thread. I said guns can easily be illegally obtained (Fake IDs was an example how someone can purchase a weapon in a different state) and then legally take it with him/her across state lines. I also said the Brady Bill federally covers licensed sellers with background checks, not unlicensed private sellers, many of which can be found at gun shows.
Again, if you don't want to close the loophole, how do you curb school shootings in America? Do you believe school shootings are a problem? So far, you've been telling me the country shouldn't do something because it won't work. That's like saying making murder shouldn't be illegal because people will still kill. |
"So far, you've been telling me the country shouldn't do something because it won't work. That's like saying making murder shouldn't be illegal because people will still kill."
lol the irony of this is killing me
what will you do when guns are banned and people resort to knives or homemade bombs?
will you then take away my ability to chop my carrots for my salad? or fertilise my crops so i'll have some food to put on my plate?
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