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Train wreck on 18 May 2018

For the year that the Wii shipped 20 million world wide this is what the NA shipments and US NPD sales looked like:

Wii 20 million (3-31-2009 to 3-31-2010)
Q1 Shipments 1.14M (NPD Apr-340k May-289.5k June-361.7) shipment sales difference +148.8k
Q2 Shipments 1.45M (NPD July-252.5 Aug-277.4 Sept-462.8) shipment sales difference +457.3k
Q3 Shipments 4.23M (NPD Oct-506.9 Nov-1260 Dec-3810) shipment sales difference (-1347)
Q4 shipments 1.48M (NPD Jan-465.8 Feb-397.9 Mar-557.5) shipment sales difference +58.8k

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160rmf on 18 May 2018
Green098 said:
Pinkie_pie said:
How is nintendo expecting to sell 20m switch this year when it's not gonna outsell ps4 and Sony is expecting 16m this year?

With games presumably. 

Woah! That's crazy!

 



 

 

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Miyamotoo on 18 May 2018
LethalP said:
The Switch isn't going to be the Wii or DS. Rather more like the 3DS or GBA it will rely on the core gaming audience which respond directly to big game releases. This is unlike the Wii/DS which sold 400-500k a week on a regular basis with the motive being mostly to play Wii Sports. The Switch doesn't have that high baseline because it's a core machine.

The big downside here is that only really Nintendo release big games on the Switch, as opposed to Sony where third parties have their back as well. Not to mention Europe and the rest of the world market which Sony always has and always will dominate. Expecting Switch to do PS4 numbers in a year, let alone Wii or DS, is silly.

Biggest difference between Wii and Switch will be that Switch will have longer life span with multiply revisons and it will have typical IPs that were on handheld only before, for instance Pokemon, so yeah Wii had stronger sales in same time period but Switch will probably have longer sales and it will be longer on market with more revisions.

Wii and DS also didn't had strong part support that could be compared with PS3 support.

 

quickrick said: 
zorg1000 said: 

Sure, nothing wrong with doubting 20m but its silly to doubt it based solely on 1 month of sales.

Not really. imagine if switch did 300k this month, people out look on 20 million would be way more likely wouldn't you agree? each month is a indicator where the market is going. plus like another person pointed out this is the 4th month of the year and we are looking at a trend. honestly labo could have been a difference  maker, it could have been a huge hit nobody really knew till now with such a unique product from nintendo.

Yeah but also need to look what Switch had in April (or until now) and what will have in later months, and from May Switch lineup is getting quite stronger compared lineup until April, in April Switch had Labo that didnt performed best and later will have games like Smash Bros, Fire Emblem, Pokemon...that will be huge system seller games.



Train wreck on 18 May 2018

Wii 25 million

2.14 (NPD A-714.2 M-675.1 J-666.7)
2.37 (NPD J-555 A-453 S-667)
4.22 (NPD O-803 N-2040 D-2150)
2.13 (NPD J-679.2 F-753 M-601)



quickrick on 18 May 2018
Miyamotoo said:
LethalP said:
The Switch isn't going to be the Wii or DS. Rather more like the 3DS or GBA it will rely on the core gaming audience which respond directly to big game releases. This is unlike the Wii/DS which sold 400-500k a week on a regular basis with the motive being mostly to play Wii Sports. The Switch doesn't have that high baseline because it's a core machine.

The big downside here is that only really Nintendo release big games on the Switch, as opposed to Sony where third parties have their back as well. Not to mention Europe and the rest of the world market which Sony always has and always will dominate. Expecting Switch to do PS4 numbers in a year, let alone Wii or DS, is silly.

Biggest difference between Wii and Switch will be that Switch will have longer life span with multiply revisons and it will have typical IPs that were on handheld only before, for instance Pokemon, so yeah Wii had stronger sales in same time period but Switch will probably have longer sales and it will be longer on market with more revisions.

Wii and DS also didn't had strong part support that could be compared with PS3 support.

 

quickrick said: 

Not really. imagine if switch did 300k this month, people out look on 20 million would be way more likely wouldn't you agree? each month is a indicator where the market is going. plus like another person pointed out this is the 4th month of the year and we are looking at a trend. honestly labo could have been a difference  maker, it could have been a huge hit nobody really knew till now with such a unique product from nintendo.

Yeah but also need to look what Switch had in April (or until now) and what will have in later months, and from May Switch lineup is getting quite stronger compared lineup until April, in April Switch had Labo that didnt performed best and later will have games like Smash Bros, Fire Emblem, Pokemon...that will be huge system seller games.

well see in terms  of system sellers nothing will beat 2017 imo, zelda, MO, mario kart, and splatoon 2 plus launch hype/demand, but we'll see what happens this year. 



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160rmf on 18 May 2018
Miyamotoo said:

Biggest difference between Wii and Switch will be that Switch will have longer life span with multiply revisons and it will have typical IPs that were on handheld only before, for instance Pokemon, so yeah Wii had stronger sales in same time period but Switch will probably have longer sales and it will be longer on market with more revisions.

Just highlighting this party. Guess people completely forgot this.



 

 

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thismeintiel on 18 May 2018
zorg1000 said:
Miyamotoo said:

How much PS4 sold in its 2nd April?

~175k

Source? I couldn't find one. Even if true, you're comparing a $399 console VS a $299 console.

Miyamotoo said: 
thismeintiel said: 

Short answer, it's not. 

Longer one. I think PS4 is going to outdo Sony's prediction and sell ~17M-18M. They will have a permanent cut to $249 this year, and most likely another $199 week. And that's not even taking into account the games it has releasing. Still, with all that, the max it can hope for is 18M.  

At this point, I think it's obvious, Nintendo expected Labo to help push HW, at least until the holidays and a few larger releases. That didn't pan out. So, my guess is they are either going to amend their goal, or they are going to have massive sales this holiday season, with probably a permanent cut to $249, as well. Still, even with all that, I still see them missing their goal. Probably matching Sony's 17M-18M.

Basically, Nintendo thought they had the next Wii, but it's not looking that way. It's definitely going to do well, but it's not exactly a phenomenon. 

Short answer, it will, little longer one, Smash Bros + Pokemon. :)

You can't really say that Switch will not be next Wii based on one month that's not good.

714K VS 171K for 2nd April.  Granted, Mario Kart Wii launched that month. But, no one honestly thinks that if a new Mario Kart launched this month it would equal those sales. At least I hope no one. So, not the Wii. 



 

KLAMarine on 18 May 2018
forest-spirit said:

Switch HW is meh-ish. I'm interested in numbers for the Variety Kit and Tropical Freeze, hopefully they both did ok.

 

Edit:

I'm a bit surprised to see Xbone down there. Sure, it didn't have God of War but it did at least have Far Cry 5, and its last few months were pretty good.

I'm hoping Labo did terribly...



Miyamotoo on 18 May 2018
quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

Biggest difference between Wii and Switch will be that Switch will have longer life span with multiply revisons and it will have typical IPs that were on handheld only before, for instance Pokemon, so yeah Wii had stronger sales in same time period but Switch will probably have longer sales and it will be longer on market with more revisions.

Wii and DS also didn't had strong part support that could be compared with PS3 support.

 

Yeah but also need to look what Switch had in April (or until now) and what will have in later months, and from May Switch lineup is getting quite stronger compared lineup until April, in April Switch had Labo that didnt performed best and later will have games like Smash Bros, Fire Emblem, Pokemon...that will be huge system seller games.

well see in terms  of system sellers nothing will beat 2017 imo, zelda, MO, mario kart, and splatoon 2 plus launch hype/demand, but we'll see what happens this year. 

Doesn't really needs to beat last year, in order to sell better this year especially because Switch had huge stock problems last year. But yeah, we can only wait and see.



zorg1000 on 18 May 2018
Train wreck said:
Wii 25 million

2.14 (NPD A-714.2 M-675.1 J-666.7)
2.37 (NPD J-555 A-453 S-667)
4.22 (NPD O-803 N-2040 D-2150)
2.13 (NPD J-679.2 F-753 M-601)

Should probably include other regions sales.

For example, Wii only sold ~2 million in Japan in the same time time frame.



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