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mZuzek said:
pikashoe said:
It baffles me that people rate any of the prequels above the Disney star wars films. The Disney ones have plenty of issues (particularly rogue one) but they are masterpieces compared to any of the prequels.

Yeah. But, no.

You should give the plinkett reviews a watch. They break down in great detail how almost nothing in the prequels work. One of my lecturers in college even recommended the reviews.



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Cant bother about SW after TLJ. It seems a lot of people think the same. Screw disney. You just became too big to be good...



TLJ completely turned me off from the Disney SW franchise. And Solo didn't interest me at all. Poor choice for Han. And it looks to be like TLJ, pretty to look at, but incredibly shallow. That's the feeling I get from the trailers, anyway.



thismeintiel said:
TLJ completely turned me off from the Disney SW franchise. And Solo didn't interest me at all. Poor choice for Han. And it looks to be like TLJ, pretty to look at, but incredibly shallow. That's the feeling I get from the trailers, anyway.

Shallow is definitely not the right word for TLJ. Even a lot of people that disliked it did admire that the film was thematically one of the deeper star wars films. I agree solo looks very bland and shallow. I wasn't fond of the idea to begin with.



-Newcloud- said:
pikashoe said:

A lot of that is down to the film being review bombed. Imdb is a bit more indicative of what audiences actually thought.

Ive heard about this review bomb but I feel if the movie was good it would have rebound with good reviews by those who like it 

The review bomb thing was disproven. They were legitimate users on RT. Besides, most movies get haters. But this time, half the fans were the "haters." The massive drop at the box office proved that. And there's a good chance that it hurts the franchise going forward. 



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pikashoe said:
mZuzek said:

Yeah. But, no.

You should give the plinkett reviews a watch. They break down in great detail how almost nothing in the prequels work. One of my lecturers in college even recommended the reviews.

Tried it once, couldn't stand a minute. I ain't about to watch hours of a dude breaking down why a movie I like doesn't work in any way, when it's clear he just hates them. He'll do anything to make them look shitty.

If anything, I could spend an hour writing about how The Last Jedi doesn't work at all, and that's based on just one viewing so I only remember a little. That movie's script was a total, absolute, complete and utter mess, doesn't matter how much you wanna spin it. The prequels might have been bogged down by atrocious writing and equally bad acting, as well as some questionable script choices and dreadful characters, but they at least tried to tell a consistent story, unlike The Last Jedi which just throws shit at your face every other second and expects you to swallow all of it.

You know what reminds me of The Last Jedi? The last movie of Digimon Adventure Tri. Of course, most of you wouldn't have watched it, and I'm sure it couldn't possibly be well received critically because of what it is (meaning it probably doesn't have much of a critical reception at all), but it's just like The Last Jedi. A completely incoherent mess of a story, with glaring plot holes everywhere and even more glaring bandages to cover them with nonsense fanservice, pathetically out-of-character moments, or even just lines that make absolutely no sense for any human being to ever pronounce (see: "We don't win by killing who we hate, we win by saving who we love"). Still, I could somewhat enjoy the last movie of Digimon Adventure Tri, because it was the last movie of a rather underwhelming 6-film series, in which the story just kept getting worse with each passing one, so by that point I had lowered my standards quite dramatically. The Last Jedi though, as average as Force Awakens was, it had something it had to live up to, and it failed so, so brutally hard - and it didn't just fail, it also had to basically throw a middle finger at everything Star Wars ever was, because you know, "innovation", "boldness", "new generation" whatever bullshit.



pikashoe said:
thismeintiel said:
TLJ completely turned me off from the Disney SW franchise. And Solo didn't interest me at all. Poor choice for Han. And it looks to be like TLJ, pretty to look at, but incredibly shallow. That's the feeling I get from the trailers, anyway.

Shallow is definitely not the right word for TLJ. Even a lot of people that disliked it did admire that the film was thematically one of the deeper star wars films. I agree solo looks very bland and shallow. I wasn't fond of the idea to begin with.

If "deeper" means sending a message, then sending the complete opposite message 5 seconds after, maybe, yeah.



thismeintiel said:
-Newcloud- said:

Ive heard about this review bomb but I feel if the movie was good it would have rebound with good reviews by those who like it 

The review bomb thing was disproven. They were legitimate users on RT. Besides, most movies get haters. But this time, half the fans were the "haters." The massive drop at the box office proved that. And there's a good chance that it hurts the franchise going forward. 

It was not disproven whatsoever, it was proven to have happened; people went through many of the reviews and found that many were copy pasted by accounts with very similar names. Also most of the negative reviews were written the day the accounts were made. 

Imdb has a much larger amount of reviews and the film has a more positive but still divisive score there. 



pikashoe said:
thismeintiel said:

The review bomb thing was disproven. They were legitimate users on RT. Besides, most movies get haters. But this time, half the fans were the "haters." The massive drop at the box office proved that. And there's a good chance that it hurts the franchise going forward. 

It was not disproven whatsoever, it was proven to have happened; people went through many of the reviews and found that many were copy pasted by accounts with very similar names. Also most of the negative reviews were written the day the accounts were made. 

Yeah, okay.

 

I wonder why this only happened to The Last Jedi?!



mZuzek said:
pikashoe said:

You should give the plinkett reviews a watch. They break down in great detail how almost nothing in the prequels work. One of my lecturers in college even recommended the reviews.

Tried it once, couldn't stand a minute. I ain't about to watch hours of a dude breaking down why a movie I like doesn't work in any way, when it's clear he just hates them. He'll do anything to make them look shitty.

If anything, I could spend an hour writing about how The Last Jedi doesn't work at all, and that's based on just one viewing so I only remember a little. That movie's script was a total, absolute, complete and utter mess, doesn't matter how much you wanna spin it. The prequels might have been bogged down by atrocious writing and equally bad acting, as well as some questionable script choices and dreadful characters, but they at least tried to tell a consistent story, unlike The Last Jedi which just throws shit at your face every other second and expects you to swallow all of it.

You know what reminds me of The Last Jedi? The last movie of Digimon Adventure Tri. Of course, most of you wouldn't have watched it, and I'm sure it couldn't possibly be well received critically because of what it is (meaning it probably doesn't have much of a critical reception at all), but it's just like The Last Jedi. A completely incoherent mess of a story, with glaring plot holes everywhere and even more glaring bandages to cover them with nonsense fanservice, pathetically out-of-character moments, or even just lines that make absolutely no sense for any human being to ever pronounce (see: "We don't win by killing who we hate, we win by saving who we love"). Still, I could somewhat enjoy the last movie of Digimon Adventure Tri, because it was the last movie of a rather underwhelming 6-film series, in which the story just kept getting worse with each passing one, so by that point I had lowered my standards quite dramatically. The Last Jedi though, as average as Force Awakens was, it had something it had to live up to, and it failed so, so brutally hard - and it didn't just fail, it also had to basically throw a middle finger at everything Star Wars ever was, because you know, "innovation", "boldness", "new generation" whatever bullshit.

So you are completely unwilling to listen to a detailed analysis of the films? If your unwilling to listen to that why should I listen to you?

Do you have a problem with me dude? I was just going to have a friendly conversation with you. But you are just coming across as extremely rude and unpleasant. The 'no matter what way you wanna spin it' comment was unnecessary. The general tone seems needlessly aggressive. If I said anything to provoke anger in you I'm sorry it was not my intent.