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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Final Fantasy 7 remake in trouble?Yong Yea and and FF rant.

 

Square should first and foremost...

Continue pursuing remakes. 5 17.24%
 
Continue DLC-ifying FF15. 1 3.45%
 
Give up on FF altogether. 9 31.03%
 
Make a solid FF16 ASAP. 10 34.48%
 
Just remaster all FF's and fuck the fans 1 3.45%
 
Put all their budget into FF online. 0 0%
 
Other/comments/middle America... 3 10.34%
 
Total:29

They could just revamp the graphics, perhaps even contracting a company... but nope, they want to change most of the game and are tied on a clusterfuck



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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i think we should wait for e3 and see for official update from square enix



DonFerrari said:
They could just revamp the graphics, perhaps even contracting a company... but nope, they want to change most of the game and are tied on a clusterfuck

This. They just needed to do something like FFVII Tech demo for PS3, with more advanced graphics though, we're in 2018 and that tech demo is from 2006, but I mean, they just needed to update FFVII's graphics, music and add VA to the game, while keeping the same battle system and launching everything in one part. I just want a real FFVII remake, not some reimagination bullshit that's going to take years to make. What Square needs to do is really simple, what they're doing is not.



RedKingXIII said:
DonFerrari said:
They could just revamp the graphics, perhaps even contracting a company... but nope, they want to change most of the game and are tied on a clusterfuck

This. They just needed to do something like FFVII Tech demo for PS3, with more advanced graphics though, we're in 2018 and that tech demo is from 2006, but I mean, they just needed to update FFVII's graphics, music and add VA to the game, while keeping the same battle system and launching everything in one part. I just want a real FFVII remake, not some reimagination bullshit that's going to take years to make. What Square needs to do is really simple, what they're doing is not.

I don't mind they thinking about outdoing the graphics of other 2018 released games... but I would already be pleased with a remaster of the level of Crash and the likes.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Like Konami and Capcom, Square had been declining for years. Things change and nothing lasts forever. You just have to try an deal with it.



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Part of the problem is that Tetsuya Nomura is an egomaniac. I don't how familiar you guys are with Squaresofts history but Nomura used to be, and sometimes still is - a character artist/designer.

Hironabu Sakaguchi, who was the producer for 90% of Squaresofts projects and responsible for getting his games developed on a timely manner has since left the company when Spirits Within tanked at the Box Office. I believe he voluntarily left Squaresoft in 2003 - right before their merge with Enix.

Reason I bring this up is because FF7 was the product of Hironabu's heart and soul. His mother passed away while developing FF7, and so alot of the philisophical themes you see in VII was because of Hironabu's grief that he was going through at the time. Nobuo Uematsu was a close friend of Hironabu, and compiled certain soundtrack songs to reflect his grief. That's why FF7's "Prelude" theme was more melancholic than previous entries and "Aeriths Theme" made you wanna put a knife through your heart.

So having learned all this, do you guys believe FF7 Remake will retain the same magic? Nomura has clearly stated that he has his own vision for the game, and has no plans to remake the game with the original concept in mind.

And FYI - Nomura's excuse for FF7 Remake to be "multiple episodes" is bullshit. The reason was because his "vision" for FF7 Remake was too big to fit on one disc. Lol, as if we all forgot that Squaresoft ran into this same problem and just used multiple discs for one game. I hate Nomura.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Like Konami and Capcom, Square had been declining for years. Things change and nothing lasts forever. You just have to try an deal with it.

By the same logic, a decline doesn't last forever. Hopefully some of these companies can unscrew themselves eventually... Some are just going to take longer than others.



KLAMarine said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Like Konami and Capcom, Square had been declining for years. Things change and nothing lasts forever. You just have to try an deal with it.

By the same logic, a decline doesn't last forever. Hopefully some of these companies can unscrew themselves eventually... Some are just going to take longer than others.

You're right, most declines don't last forever... because they die. It's very rare for any company in business to reach a peak of success, decline to the point of irrelevance and then manage to climb back to their peak again. I can think of only one such company and that's Apple. But that was because they had one of the greatest visionaries the world has ever seen steering the ship. Who does Square have that rivals Jobs? 

The fact is, the gaming industry has changed so much (more western-centric) that a lot of older Japanese companies can't keep up. That's why you see a lot of them focusing on mobile because they don't really have a clue.



Square hasnt made any great games in a very, very long time. Like a decade plus. Their last remake of secret of mana was atrocious, so it's pretty probable they will screw FF7 up too



I wish they'd stop trying to re-invent the wheel and just gave it the shadow of the collosus/Crash treatment.

That's all people asked for. Not a complete re-imagining and not a 3 parter.

This was easy money, but they always go and complicate things and deliver a turd. I'm worried.