John2290 said:
Zoombael said:
Then you haven't played (enough) pre 6th gen games.
Show me the games allegedly rival the depth, variety, quality and have the je ne sais quoi of a Secret of Evermore/Mana, SuperDoubleDragon, Shadowrun, Spindizzyworlds, KingArthursWorld, Cybernator, Flashback, Utopia, SimCity, Populous, FinalFight, Rock n Roll Racing, Mechwarrior (SNES), Metal Marines, Castlevania, Road Rash, Desert/Jungle Strike, StreetFighter/MortalKombat/Samurai Showdown etc (is there actually a good fighting game by indie?), ZombiesAteMyNeighbours, Super Bomberman, Earthworm Jim, Another World, Blackthorne, Super Turrican, Syndicate, Breath of Fire III, etc.
This is an incomplete list of 5th gen games i personally owned and played extensively. Not necessarily a 10/10, 9/10 or even 7/10. I didn't include Nintendo titles, and are you sure you meant pre sixth gen? Because this would include Playstation and N64 and would make the list of games substantially longer.
"rival anything". Any-thing. No one aware of the spectrum of games available pre 6gen would say such a thing.
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Yes I say such a thing because amongst the shit just like back then the quality of indies, mobile games and steam indies are waaaay higher. Games like Ori, Transister, Pyre, inside, Dust elysium tail, Axium verge, Resogun, Nexmachina, The witness, oxenfree, thumper,undertale, darkest dungeon....Hellblade senuas sacrifice is an indie ffs. VR games like blasters of the universe, Superhot,, Moss.....shit this list would be 20 or 30 atrong just from VR alone before I finish andI've BARLEY scratched the surface of 2d games. And mobiles games like moument valley, Plague inc, Riptideor games that are completely free like Reaper, Hearthstone, DK, FF exodus...they might not be the greatest games by our opinions but their popularity can't be denied.
Maybe of these games trump even my best from pre 5th gen. Super Mario bros 3, A co op game of Double dragon and california games probably being my top three and only Super mario 3 can hold a candle to many of the indies today. Sheer quality has been upped a hundred fold and tech has allowed for much, much more diversity in gameplay and the length instead of padded, illusory tricks to create depth and length. The first game to actually be meaty enough to hold up was Final fantasy that paved the way and maybe they do deserve praise for that but they've been outdone too with I am setsuna and games like it.
Every genre has been outdone and refined and continues to be improved on with indies to kickstarters and other fan funded stuff. These games today could not exist without those games but to say they are better...that's so ignorant yo what is available today as I've only touched on a small fraction which I believe outright beat the generations anyway and they do it for a small fraction of the cost of those games on release. Like 10% in most cases,on average if you're in Ireland (not sure how it would go with inflation else where).
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