John2290 said:
Yes I say such a thing because amongst the shit just like back then the quality of indies, mobile games and steam indies are waaaay higher. Games like Ori, Transister, Pyre, inside, Dust elysium tail, Axium verge, Resogun, Nexmachina, The witness, oxenfree, thumper,undertale, darkest dungeon....Hellblade senuas sacrifice is an indie ffs. VR games like blasters of the universe, Superhot,, Moss.....shit this list would be 20 or 30 atrong just from VR alone before I finish andI've BARLEY scratched the surface of 2d games. And mobiles games like moument valley, Plague inc, Riptideor games that are completely free like Reaper, Hearthstone, DK, FF exodus...they might not be the greatest games by our opinions but their popularity can't be denied. Maybe of these games trump even my best from pre 5th gen. Super Mario bros 3, A co op game of Double dragon and california games probably being my top three and only Super mario 3 can hold a candle to many of the indies today. Sheer quality has been upped a hundred fold and tech has allowed for much, much more diversity in gameplay and the length instead of padded, illusory tricks to create depth and length. The first game to actually be meaty enough to hold up was Final fantasy that paved the way and maybe they do deserve praise for that but they've been outdone too with I am setsuna and games like it. Every genre has been outdone and refined and continues to be improved on with indies to kickstarters and other fan funded stuff. These games today could not exist without those games but to say they are better...that's so ignorant yo what is available today as I've only touched on a small fraction which I believe outright beat the generations anyway and they do it for a small fraction of the cost of those games on release. Like 10% in most cases,on average if you're in Ireland (not sure how it would go with inflation else where). |
Variety, genres? Nothing. I repeat, an incomplete list. 5th gen would include for example Colony Wars, Wing Commander, G-Police. Anything? Blood Omen Legacy of Kain, Resident Evil (1-3)? There is nothing remotely as refined and outstanding.
Until recently i played They're Billions (then GoW released). A good game, but first and foremost finally a good indie RTS that stands out. Alas, it is early access and feels as incomplete and insignificant as other indie games i've played. Will it be ever finished? I don't count on it. I bought it because it piqued my interest and although content is lacking, i can enjoy it. But it's no SuddenStrike, no C&C, no Warzone 2100 ...
The question of there be any good fighting/beat em up games wasn't rethorical. Ok, maybe it was, because i know i'm pretty sure there aren't any.
Some of the games you list aren't even indie. Ori may have started out as independent production, but it was published by Microsoft, and Microsoft owns the rights to the IP. Resogun, Sony. Calling Senuas Sacrifice an indie is also quite the stretch. The game was developed and published by Ninja Theory, an industry veteran. The latest Resident Evil was developed and published by Capcom. Technically, it makes it indie. Yea, i know the difference, but you don't seem to mind sticking to formalities.
"this list would be 20 or 30 atrong"
You didn't even notice that i wasn't aiming for sheer numbers. Ye, thats the problem with egocentric gamers of these days. When their needs are satisfied, everyone else must feel the same way.
Did i mention the latest TW? I did. Feels just like 15 years. AI is as dumb as ever. Golden Age of gaming my heini. People should be more careful with the use of superlatives.
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