Well there must be a reason why Sony keeps doing better in the console market. I mean if Nintendo is appealing to everyone Sony does AND kids, then shouldn't Nintendo be the ones on top?

Alright, ill give you that but my point remains the same. Releasing a few experimental, casual titles does not prevent the hardcore/traditional software that AlfredoTurkey holds so dear from releasing.

Casual games like 1 2 Switch & Labo are not holding Nintendo back from releasing games like Zelda, Super Mario, Fire Emblem, Metroid, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Xenoblade, etc. Or from courting 3rd parties to bring over games like Skyrim, Doom, Dark Souls, Wofenstein, Dragon Quest, etc.

The same goes for previous consoles. Things like Singstar, PS Eye, PS Move, Guitar Hero/Rock Band & Kinect did not stop Sony, Microsoft & 3rd parties from releasing games like Halo, Gears, Forza, Uncharted, God of War, Last of Us, GTA, Fallout, Bioshock, Call of Duty, Assassins Creed, etc.

Wanting these types of games to fail so that developers can focus on "real" games is a nonsense argument.

You literally just did it again, you arent actually refuting any of the things hes saying, instead making up arguments he never made.

If Nintendo had the third party support of PlayStation and Xbox, then we wouldn't have this discussion. Labo would just be a silly little thing for kids. Its just that Nintendo doesn't have that support and Labo is their big game for Q2 along with Mario Tennis.

I don't see Labo as a great addition to a growing diverse library of games on the Switch. I see it as a reason for gamers who might be interested in Nintendo consoles to point at and say "Yeah, theres a good reason as to why I avoid Nintendo consoles. Its just not for me. Its for kids."

Like Wii Sports was insanely popular for a bit. It drew in soccer moms and grandparents, but that was all it did. Maybe a few of them picked up Mario Kart and NSMBWii as well, but that's just it. It doesn't help anyone in the long run. Grandma is not going "That was a fun game of bowling, dear. Now lets tear up some ass in Doom!"

These kinda games doesn't draw in as many people as they put off I believe.

Well he says Nintendo should appeal to kids in order to make them fans in the long run, but Sony doesn't do that and are more successful. I don't know what he expect me to say...

If you dont like Labo than maybe play one of the other 600+ games currently on the system.

Anybody who would let a single kid/casual game prevent them from buying a system they were interested in has some serious growing up to do.

What does that have to do with anything? Who cares if Wii Sports didnt cause people to want to play Doom? What kind of nonsense argument is that?

Why is it seen as a bad thing to want to appeal to as many demographics as possible? Why would anybody want the entire gaming market to just be 13-35 year old males?

A few years ago the head of Playstation literally said a healthy Nintendo is vital to the game industry because they bring in a large children market, many of which grow up to play on Playstation.

Also, Nintendo has outshipped Sony in 16 of the 23 years since Playstation released.

Their glory days?

Are you talking about the NES/GB era when they bundled a toy gun/robot and a casual puzzle game?

Or maybe the DS/Wii when a pet simulator, motion control minigames and education/fitness titles were the biggest system sellers?

Kinda interesting that their 2 best selling handhelds and 2 best selling consoles had a very strong kid/family/casual fanbase.

That's always the argument. Its just one game. Its just two games. Its just a few games. Yeah, well they matter to a lot of people. 

What am I going to say "Oh, theres 600 games on the system?! My apologies, sir. Ill start right away" 

Its about the image of the system. Labo is heavily promoted. You know a few games on the Eshop if you watched a random Nintendo Direct that was announced 12 hours before it started and ran from 6pm to 6.13pm. Then you might know a couple of them. 

Ive played most of the big new games...and some older ports. And I'm starting to feel the good old drought once again. Many gamers do. Just because you enjoy all 600 games on the Switch doesn't mean everyone else do.