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KLAMarine on 26 April 2018
contestgamer said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Exactly. You have no problem with stealing other people's inventions, which was one of the main things copyright law was intended to protect. This shows that you don't respect other people's hard work. You think, that it doesn't matter if somebody spent 30 years on a new invention, you have the right to steal their technology regardless. Same goes for a book that somebody took 5 years of sweat, blood, and tears to write. Or even a videogame. 

No, stealing would be taking the IP and releasing it myself to make money on it. That would be stealing. Taking an infinitely replicable code is not stealing if I wasnt going to shell out the money for it anyway.

I'm looking for someone to install a toilet in my house. Could you come over and do it?

I'll pay ya! (Actually I won't pay ya, I'll just kick you out of my house once the work is done. After all, it's not like I was gonna pay ya to begin with and it's not like you lost anything. You still have your arms.)



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Pemalite on 26 April 2018
HollyGamer said:

My self and Miyamoto are from a developing country, and we already agree on.  So you got two VGC members that can prove it.  Even China , India Indonesia  are considered as developing country, and consume a lot of electronic and goodies from their neighbor like japan and US (if you are not paying attention on trade wars news ).

That is Ancedotal evidence and can thus be discarded as potentially being errant.
We need empirical evidence.

rolltide101x said:
Nintendo never does enough to stop pirates. Even though it is a flaw in Nvidia's hardware that allows this to work Nintendo should have put more effort into trying to hack it themselves to find the issue in the first place.

Indeed.
With that in mind... What makes Nintendo devices such an attractive proposition is thanks to Nintendo opting for underpowered hardware with a ton of exclusives, which makes it a prime candidate of getting emulation and homebrew efforts up and running earlier.

venomcarnage said:
Not really a fan of Nintendo so good job Hackers.

Whether you are a fan of a company/business should be irrelevant.



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HollyGamer on 26 April 2018
KLAMarine said:
HollyGamer said:

My self and Miyamoto are from a developing country, and we already agree on.  So you got two VGC members that can prove it.  Even China , India Indonesia  are considered as developing country, and consume a lot of electronic and goodies from their neighbor like japan and US (if you are not paying attention on trade wars news ).

So what percentage of current PS4 sales went to developing countries?

Developing country always receive their product from their neighbored country, for Example in South East ASIA  country like Indonesia,  Singapore and Philippines, Thailand got their PS4 from Hongkong, US and Japan.

That's why it's hard to tract how many are sold from south East Asian region, Hell even China also considered developing region , and in terms of consumer base it's far bigger then US and Europe combine. 



HollyGamer on 26 April 2018
Pemalite said:
HollyGamer said:

My self and Miyamoto are from a developing country, and we already agree on.  So you got two VGC members that can prove it.  Even China , India Indonesia  are considered as developing country, and consume a lot of electronic and goodies from their neighbor like japan and US (if you are not paying attention on trade wars news ).

That is Ancedotal evidence and can thus be discarded as potentially being errant.
We need empirical evidence.

 

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/051915/how-much-global-economy-comprised-electronics-sector.asp

http://www.nielsen.com/ssa/en/press-room/2015/consumers-in-developing-countries-are-more-likely-to-be-early-adopters-of-new-products.html

https://blog.euromonitor.com/2013/11/top-5-reasons-why-consumer-goods-companies-are-transferring-manufacturing-to-latin-america.html

https://blog.euromonitor.com/2017/10/consumer-expenditure-top-10-countries.html

https://www.spglobal.com/our-insights/Emerging-Markets-May-Offer-The-Most-Potential-For-The-Worlds-Largest-Consumer-Focused-Companies.html



KLAMarine on 26 April 2018
HollyGamer said:
KLAMarine said:

So what percentage of current PS4 sales went to developing countries?

Developing country always receive their product from their neighbored country, for Example in South East ASIA  country like Indonesia,  Singapore and Philippines, Thailand got their PS4 from Hongkong, US and Japan.

That's why it's hard to tract how many are sold from south East Asian region, Hell even China also considered developing region , and in terms of consumer base it's far bigger then US and Europe combine. 

So what's the current count of players from developing countries?



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HollyGamer on 26 April 2018

double post 

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HollyGamer on 26 April 2018
KLAMarine said:
HollyGamer said:

Developing country always receive their product from their neighbored country, for Example in South East ASIA  country like Indonesia,  Singapore and Philippines, Thailand got their PS4 from Hongkong, US and Japan.

That's why it's hard to tract how many are sold from south East Asian region, Hell even China also considered developing region , and in terms of consumer base it's far bigger then US and Europe combine. 

So what's the current count of players from developing countries?

It's hard to tract and count, but all of the number are half from  all the bige region like Japan , Hongkong etc 

http://blog.retailing.org/southeast-asia-the-next-major-consumer-market

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Business-booms-for-electronics-stores-in-Southeast-Asia



KLAMarine on 26 April 2018
HollyGamer said:
KLAMarine said:

So what's the current count of players from developing countries?

It's hard to tract and count, but all of the number are half from  all the bige region like Japan , Hongkong etc 

http://blog.retailing.org/southeast-asia-the-next-major-consumer-market

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Business-booms-for-electronics-stores-in-Southeast-Asia

So what are the numbers? I understand they're hard to count but do we have the count?



Pemalite on 26 April 2018
HollyGamer said:

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/051915/how-much-global-economy-comprised-electronics-sector.asp

That is manufacturing, not consumption.

HollyGamer said:

http://www.nielsen.com/ssa/en/press-room/2015/consumers-in-developing-countries-are-more-likely-to-be-early-adopters-of-new-products.html

That is early adopter statistics and thus isn't representative of the tech consumption of an entire population.


HollyGamer said:

https://blog.euromonitor.com/2013/11/top-5-reasons-why-consumer-goods-companies-are-transferring-manufacturing-to-latin-america.html

This is a blog. Also lacks sufficient citation.
It is also about manufacturing, not consumption, don't conflate the two.


HollyGamer said:

https://blog.euromonitor.com/2017/10/consumer-expenditure-top-10-countries.html

Again. This is a blog. Also lacks sufficient citation.
It is also about household expenditure/income and thus has nothing to do with electronics consumption.

HollyGamer said:

https://www.spglobal.com/our-insights/Emerging-Markets-May-Offer-The-Most-Potential-For-The-Worlds-Largest-Consumer-Focused-Companies.html

This is about Growth Potential.

Posting a ton of links to reinforce an already established confirmation bias is all well and dandy, but they need to reinforce your position and not present an argument that has nothing to do with your original claim.



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HollyGamer on 26 April 2018
Pemalite said:
HollyGamer said:

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/051915/how-much-global-economy-comprised-electronics-sector.asp

That is manufacturing, not consumption.

HollyGamer said:

http://www.nielsen.com/ssa/en/press-room/2015/consumers-in-developing-countries-are-more-likely-to-be-early-adopters-of-new-products.html

That is early adopter statistics and thus isn't representative of the tech consumption of an entire population.


HollyGamer said:

https://blog.euromonitor.com/2013/11/top-5-reasons-why-consumer-goods-companies-are-transferring-manufacturing-to-latin-america.html

This is a blog. Also lacks sufficient citation.
It is also about manufacturing, not consumption, don't conflate the two.


HollyGamer said:

https://blog.euromonitor.com/2017/10/consumer-expenditure-top-10-countries.html

Again. This is a blog. Also lacks sufficient citation.
It is also about household expenditure/income and thus has nothing to do with electronics consumption.

HollyGamer said:

https://www.spglobal.com/our-insights/Emerging-Markets-May-Offer-The-Most-Potential-For-The-Worlds-Largest-Consumer-Focused-Companies.html

This is about Growth Potential.

Posting a ton of links to reinforce an already established confirmation bias is all well and dandy, but they need to reinforce your position and not present an argument that has nothing to do with your original claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronics_industry_in_China

https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/2015/10/13/sparking-excitement-investment-opportunities-in-aseans-electronics-industry.html